ZB Pedal Steel Guitars - Please help!
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- Larry Chung
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Actually, this thread is turning into something of a book... (; G'day, Pat Kelly - hope your fire engine red ZB is keeping you smiling down under.
900 posts, and a whopping 23 pages. Sheesh, do you folks like your ZBs, or what?
Thanks for your continuing posts, everyone. The book project is still happening, but I've been super-busy with work and life (and practicing steel, of course). Another new year's resolution on the way. 2006 will be the year of the ZB book!
And thanks, bOb, for keeping this thread (and the gig of memory it requires) alive and kickin'.
Some lovely ZBs in the For Sale section right now, too. No, I'm not selling mine... (:
All ZBest during this very festive season.
LC
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Larry Chung
'67 ZB D-10 8+4 (ser. #1077)
'69 ZB S-10 3+4 (ser. #0124)
'70 ZB D-10 8+4 (ser.# 0215)
'71 ZB Custom S-11 4+4 (ser. #0252)
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900 posts, and a whopping 23 pages. Sheesh, do you folks like your ZBs, or what?
Thanks for your continuing posts, everyone. The book project is still happening, but I've been super-busy with work and life (and practicing steel, of course). Another new year's resolution on the way. 2006 will be the year of the ZB book!
And thanks, bOb, for keeping this thread (and the gig of memory it requires) alive and kickin'.
Some lovely ZBs in the For Sale section right now, too. No, I'm not selling mine... (:
All ZBest during this very festive season.
LC
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Larry Chung
'67 ZB D-10 8+4 (ser. #1077)
'69 ZB S-10 3+4 (ser. #0124)
'70 ZB D-10 8+4 (ser.# 0215)
'71 ZB Custom S-11 4+4 (ser. #0252)
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Hi, Larry
Thanks for your e-mail re: ZB strings.
I did reply, but I see that delivery of my e-mail has been 'delayed'. I only have a handful of nickel-wound ZB strings (with the Phoenix, AZ address on them (I'd thought there were more, but I must have used some over the years), but you're welcome to them.
Let me have your street address and I'll pop them in the mail.
Best,
Roger R.
Thanks for your e-mail re: ZB strings.
I did reply, but I see that delivery of my e-mail has been 'delayed'. I only have a handful of nickel-wound ZB strings (with the Phoenix, AZ address on them (I'd thought there were more, but I must have used some over the years), but you're welcome to them.
Let me have your street address and I'll pop them in the mail.
Best,
Roger R.
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Hi Roger:
Thanks so much for the strings. I'll be sure to include them in the book-in-progress.
I know there were also ZB amplifiers (never seen one), volume pedal (own one), and maybe even a ZB effect box or two (never seen one)? If anyone out there has a photo of these, please do send them along.
Hey Kevin: too bad about the amp. I guess making great guitars was Zane's thing. Maybe not so much with the amps. Thanks in advance for the amp photos.
All ZBest!
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Thanks so much for the strings. I'll be sure to include them in the book-in-progress.
I know there were also ZB amplifiers (never seen one), volume pedal (own one), and maybe even a ZB effect box or two (never seen one)? If anyone out there has a photo of these, please do send them along.
Hey Kevin: too bad about the amp. I guess making great guitars was Zane's thing. Maybe not so much with the amps. Thanks in advance for the amp photos.
All ZBest!
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Hi Larry, I got my ZB in 65 and always thought it was #1017 but a friend said he saw a post somewhere and it stated that mine was #1019. I sold the guitar several years ago but would like to know if it was #1019. It was a deep red, almost wine color with lots of beautiful birdseye. Is there any way to find out if the guitar is still around and who might own it now?
Thanks
Troy
Thanks
Troy
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Larry brought up the question of the many gigs of memory that these many pages require. How about tossing b0b an extra five or ten dollar bill at years end. I am sure he will be tickled to receive them.
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1969 ZB Custom D10, BMI S10, 1981 Peavy Musician Mark III, 15 Inch Black Widow, custom enclosure
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Larry brought up the question of the many gigs of memory that these many pages require. How about tossing b0b an extra five or ten dollar bill at years end. I am sure he will be tickled to receive them.
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1969 ZB Custom D10, BMI S10, 1981 Peavy Musician Mark III, 15 Inch Black Widow, custom enclosure
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1969 ZB Custom D10, BMI S10, 1981 Peavy Musician Mark III, 15 Inch Black Widow, custom enclosure
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Larry, I have a ZB volume control. It came new with the ZB Custom D10 35 years ago. I still use it and have only changed the pot about 4 times. I think the one I have in there now is an industrial grade .5 meg Allen-Bradley that a friend acquired from a local Caterpillar Tractor factory. I remember I had to cut the shaft down and file a flat on it to match the nylon gear. While a lot of volume controls required a string under tension, Zane I guess developed this method of rack and pinion.
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1969 ZB Custom D10, BMI S10, 1981 Peavy Musician Mark III, 15 Inch Black Widow, custom enclosure
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1969 ZB Custom D10, BMI S10, 1981 Peavy Musician Mark III, 15 Inch Black Widow, custom enclosure
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Just a note on the ZB amps. They were apparently (at least some, if not all)
made by Standel.
I never played through one, but did hear Big
Jim Murphy playing a Sho-Bud through one at
the Great American Music Hall in SF in either
1975 or 1976 with Vassar Clements.Not a steel
sound-friendly room (from past experience as
a player and listener). Big Jim got gorgeous
tone out of that setup, as I 'spose he would
have out of anything. I think that's about the only time I've heard someone use a ZB amp
but thought at the time, if I find one, I'll
buy it...(No, I don't want one now).
Joe.
made by Standel.
I never played through one, but did hear Big
Jim Murphy playing a Sho-Bud through one at
the Great American Music Hall in SF in either
1975 or 1976 with Vassar Clements.Not a steel
sound-friendly room (from past experience as
a player and listener). Big Jim got gorgeous
tone out of that setup, as I 'spose he would
have out of anything. I think that's about the only time I've heard someone use a ZB amp
but thought at the time, if I find one, I'll
buy it...(No, I don't want one now).
Joe.
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I have a couple of pics on my website of my
ZBs. The 67 Scranton and the 67 12str with the wrong logo and finger board. http://www.bandstandinc.com
ZBs. The 67 Scranton and the 67 12str with the wrong logo and finger board. http://www.bandstandinc.com
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ZB S-10 on ebay. Look like it needs work.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ZB-Z-B-CUSTOM-BECK-5-PEDAL-STEEL-GUITAR-10-STRINGS_W0QQitemZ7376853867
http://cgi.ebay.com/ZB-Z-B-CUSTOM-BECK-5-PEDAL-STEEL-GUITAR-10-STRINGS_W0QQitemZ7376853867
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I haven't been on in a while, But to day I was at my daughters house, watching home movies. I had forgotten about the movies I took inside the Z.B. factory in Bakersfield. Tom Brumley was there checking ont the steels. Anyway the whole room was full of new steels. they sure did look good.
anyway everone have a Mary Chirstmas.
John
anyway everone have a Mary Chirstmas.
John
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john, i'd be really interested in seeing that home movie of the inside of the factory, i'm sure a lot of the rest of us zb fanatics would be interested too. any chance of you putting them up for us to see? it would make an excellent zb christmas gift...if not, maybe you would care to elaborate on what kinds of stuff is on the tape...merry christmas!!!
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My first pro model steel was a beautiful red front and rear, clear top, birds eye maple D-10 with eight floor and five knee levers. I bought it slightly used in 1971 from Larry Petre in Bakersfield, CA, where Bev and I were living at the time. I I played it for a few years and sold it to a man in Delano, California. Tom Brumley told me he thought it was the last unit built in Bakersfield before they moved to Arizona. Sorry I don't have the serial number. I have many fond memories of this guitar and wish I had kept it.
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Emmons LeGrande II D-10, 8 & 5, Willy D-10, 8 & 8 two Peavey 112's, Profex II and Hilton Pedal.
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Emmons LeGrande II D-10, 8 & 5, Willy D-10, 8 & 8 two Peavey 112's, Profex II and Hilton Pedal.
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My first pro model steel was a beautiful red front and rear, clear top, birds eye maple D-10 ZB with eight floor and five knee levers. I bought it slightly used in 1972 from Larry Petre in Bakersfield, CA, where Bev and I were living at the time. I played it for a few years and sold it to a man in Delano, California. Tom Brumley told me he thought it was the last unit built in Bakersfield before they moved to Arizona. Sorry I don't have the serial number. I have many fond memories of this guitar and wish I had kept it. I do have some photos.
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Emmons LeGrande II D-10, 8 & 5, Willy D-10, 8 & 8 two Peavey 112's, Profex II and Hilton Pedal.
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Emmons LeGrande II D-10, 8 & 5, Willy D-10, 8 & 8 two Peavey 112's, Profex II and Hilton Pedal.
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My first pro model steel was a ZB D-10 with eight floor and five knee levers. It was a beautiful red front and rear with natural clear top in birds eye maple. I bought it from Larry Petre in Bakersfield, CA in 1972 and played it in that area for about three years. I sold it to a man in Delano, CA, about 1975. Tom Brumley told me he thought it was the last guitar he inspected before the company was moved to Arizona. I do have some photos but have lost track of the serial number. Larry may have it in his records. Many great memories of the ZB.
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Emmons LeGrande II D-10, 8 & 5, Willy D-10, 8 & 8 two Peavey 112's, Profex II and Hilton Pedal.
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Emmons LeGrande II D-10, 8 & 5, Willy D-10, 8 & 8 two Peavey 112's, Profex II and Hilton Pedal.
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Hope you guys (gals) will forgive me for the spelling, I never did get good grades in english.
I don't know whether or not I have the right equipment to do this, But if I can I will put the movies on the air. I talk to and see my kids on the computer, and they see me. So maybe I can put the movies I have on the inside of the Z.B.Factory on the air. I can't myself, But maybe my Grandson can. He's the one with all the knowledge around here. I'll get back with you guys after I talk to him.
Merry Christmas John
I don't know whether or not I have the right equipment to do this, But if I can I will put the movies on the air. I talk to and see my kids on the computer, and they see me. So maybe I can put the movies I have on the inside of the Z.B.Factory on the air. I can't myself, But maybe my Grandson can. He's the one with all the knowledge around here. I'll get back with you guys after I talk to him.
Merry Christmas John
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Thanks John, had an e-mail from Larry this am, he tried to look up the SN. Said his records did not show it in 1973. It could have been mid 1972 or earlier, my memory is pretty short. Back in those years, "Ole Chops Petre" was eaten up with ZB. Thanks.
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Emmons LeGrande II D-10, 8 & 5, Willy D-10, 8 & 8 two Peavey 112's, Profex II and Hilton Pedal.
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Emmons LeGrande II D-10, 8 & 5, Willy D-10, 8 & 8 two Peavey 112's, Profex II and Hilton Pedal.
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Hi Lyle
I worked for Mosrite of California untill they went bankrupt In February of 1969. I think it was march the 1st( maybe a day or so one way or the other) that I went to work for Z.B. Guitar Co. Zane taught me himself how to build the complete guitar, we even made the cases for them. Z.B. Guitar Co. moved to california in 1968. I don't know exactly which month. The owners of the company moved me and the company to Phoenix,Arizona February 1st 1971. I was at this time General Manager of the company. I don't know what happened after I came back to bakersfield, but in January of 1972 I came back to Bakersfield, and went to work for Mosrite of California, which at that time I was General Manager. I hope some of these dates will help you. After I left Z.B. Bill Sims (the owner of Z.B. Guitar Co.) Had Zane Beck come to Arz. to help him run the company, and find someone who was qualified to work and run the company. After this point I don't know what happered.
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I worked for Mosrite of California untill they went bankrupt In February of 1969. I think it was march the 1st( maybe a day or so one way or the other) that I went to work for Z.B. Guitar Co. Zane taught me himself how to build the complete guitar, we even made the cases for them. Z.B. Guitar Co. moved to california in 1968. I don't know exactly which month. The owners of the company moved me and the company to Phoenix,Arizona February 1st 1971. I was at this time General Manager of the company. I don't know what happened after I came back to bakersfield, but in January of 1972 I came back to Bakersfield, and went to work for Mosrite of California, which at that time I was General Manager. I hope some of these dates will help you. After I left Z.B. Bill Sims (the owner of Z.B. Guitar Co.) Had Zane Beck come to Arz. to help him run the company, and find someone who was qualified to work and run the company. After this point I don't know what happered.
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