ZB Pedal Steel Guitars - Please help!

Larry Behm · Post by **Larry Behm** » 13 Sep 2005 3:58 am

Wow 800 posts who would ever have guessed a tread would last this long.

Larry Behm

Curt Langston · Post by **Curt Langston** » 13 Sep 2005 10:06 am

Is this thread drifting?[This message was edited by Curt Langston on 15 April 2006 at 03:47 PM.]

Rex Thomas · Post by **Rex Thomas** » 13 Sep 2005 10:18 am

I disagree.
This thread has stayed on the topic. Looking over pg. 20, it was bucket o' ZB's with related info, no straying, name calling, etc., just good ol' ZB lovers talking about their ZB steels.
I salute you folks.
Charge on, ZB! (& your thread too!)

George Redmon · Post by **George Redmon** » 13 Sep 2005 12:20 pm

ZB...is a great great steel guitar..i really enjoyed Zanes LP's..i have several..it may sound kinda dumb...but i just love his "Zane Becks Plays THe ZB Student Steel" record. Some nice nice chord work...i sure miss Zane..he was a great guy.

Kevin Hatton · Post by **Kevin Hatton** » 13 Sep 2005 1:47 pm

Curt like Bob said, if you don't like it, don't read it. It is full of valuable information to fellow ZB players. You sound like you have an alternative agenda.

Russ Tkac · Post by **Russ Tkac** » 13 Sep 2005 5:33 pm

I don't know...it seems to be about ZB guitars. As long as b0b thinks it's OK what's the problem?

One of these days it will probably stop, then again........

[This message was edited by b0b on 14 September 2005 at 12:43 PM.]

Curt Langston · Post by **Curt Langston** » 14 Sep 2005 5:51 am

You sound like you have an alternative agenda.

No alternative agenda. Just stated that I thought it was drifting, thats all.[This message was edited by Curt Langston on 15 April 2006 at 03:49 PM.]

Rex Thomas · Post by **Rex Thomas** » 14 Sep 2005 6:04 am

As long as it stays with the topic of ZB guitars, my guess is that b0b could care less if it breaks 1000 & goes beyond that. Potential ZB owners should be tickled to have such a great support group.
Gorgeous guitar, Russ!
Though this might've been answered, anyone know the whereabouts of the black & m.o.p. inlay ZB that Gene O' Neal used to have back in the '70's?

Ben Elder · Post by **Ben Elder** » 14 Sep 2005 2:01 pm

I wrote this last night and filed it away but SOMEBODY won't give it up in the face of all logic, evidence and gentle correction. So here goes:

ZB Please Help: far and away the best thread on the Forum. (Honorable mention to any place Farris Currie and Ricky Davis make their marks.) I'm searching a certain declaimer's various posts thinking I might find a hitherto undiscovered superior bounty of wisdom, insight and knowledge. Damnedest thing: no luck so far, despite all the arrogant superiority the anti-ZB post wishes it conveys. I hope said declaimer is a recent arrival to the Sooner State, because if he's a native, his ill-thought jack-booted campaign, as a secondary effect, is an undeserved but nevertheless damning reflection on me. Let's hope that Curt Response will henceforth play--or do whatever he does--in his own sandbox. Me-OW![This message was edited by Ben Elder on 14 September 2005 at 03:02 PM.]

Kevin Hatton · Post by **Kevin Hatton** » 14 Sep 2005 5:19 pm

Larry, the answer is no. ZB started making long throws in the early seventies. You can tell a long throw by looking at the tuning end plate. The C6th side staggers on the bottom edge of the endplate making it deeper that the E9th sied looking at the endplate from the back. The short throw endplates bottom edge is just straight accross. The wisdom was to make an easier playing pedal action by increasing the throw leverage just a bit. I believe all the non horned ZB's are long throws as they were made in the late seveties and eighties.

Russ Tkac · Post by **Russ Tkac** » 14 Sep 2005 5:41 pm

Curt Langston · Post by **Curt Langston** » 14 Sep 2005 5:42 pm

Gee Bennie, thats some mighty big words there. Do you even know what you said? I think you may have gotten tripped up in your logic.(or lack of) Anyhoo, I did not mean to offend anyone.........

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Kevin Hatton · Post by **Kevin Hatton** » 14 Sep 2005 7:49 pm

Thanks Russ for the picture. Hey man, don't forget to crimp your tuners so they don't creep (not too hard or you'll twist the tuning screw off the finger).

Ben Elder · Post by **Ben Elder** » 14 Sep 2005 9:05 pm

Either bring something positive to the ZB thread, Curt, or fuh cough. You're a pain in the pac-a-seat to folks into ZBs. (Dem woids sho't 'nuff f' ye?)

Curt Langston · Post by **Curt Langston** » 15 Sep 2005 2:32 am

Wow! Somebody is going to blow a gasket! Take it easy there Benny. You need to lighten up and try some relaxation techniques.

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Russ Tkac · Post by **Russ Tkac** » 15 Sep 2005 3:58 am

Kevin,

The ZB above is not mine. I found a picture of one Tom Bradshaw restored.

Russ

Charlie McDonald · Post by **Charlie McDonald** » 19 Sep 2005 4:06 am

This post is a community service. It seems to be the happiest club on the forum.

For instance: would somebody/several take a look at this and post a response? I was interested in a student ZB a while back.
This is nice. http://portland.craigslist.org/msg/94501075.html

Russ Tkac · Post by **Russ Tkac** » 19 Sep 2005 9:14 am

See this post above.
http://steelguitarforum.com/Forum5/HTML/011098.html

Russ

Ben Elder · Post by **Ben Elder** » 19 Sep 2005 11:52 pm

Don't give up your day job, if any, Curt. You and Katrina are pretty much tied in the league standings for Ambassadors of Humor, Wit and Joie de Vivre.

Now (and by now, I mean several days ago), gentlemen and ladies, with Amateur Night at Gigglzzz a receding and unfortunate memory, let's get back to those machines Zane built, created and inspired. (Curt, you can go try out your new stuff--you do have new stuff dontcha, or is it just that close-the-ZB-thread line for the umpty-ninth time?-- over on the Humor Section (broadly defined)).[This message was edited by Ben Elder on 20 September 2005 at 12:54 AM.]

Mike Vallandigham · Post by **Mike Vallandigham** » 20 Sep 2005 7:19 am

Question..
What do you guys use for lube when re-assembling a changer before putting it in the guitar?

I have my E-9 neck apart for funk removal.

Mike

Bob Mainwaring · Post by **Bob Mainwaring** » 22 Sep 2005 9:19 pm

First time for a long time since I was here in "Z.B. Land" Regarding Jim Hussey's posting......was/is there a list of numbers anywhere to be reached??
My SD10 is 0649
D10 is 0588
Any info' would be greatly appreciated.

Big Bad Bob.

Larry Chung · Post by **Larry Chung** » 22 Sep 2005 9:51 pm

Hey Bob:

Welcome back. Here's what I can tell you without having seen either guitar. The serial numbers (0500s and 0600s) are most likely from the mid-70s and made in Phoenix, perhaps in Texas. If you can post a photo or two, it would help greatly. But, failing that, here's a list of a few things to check:

1. Do the guitars have the famous ZB "horns" at the changer mount and the keyhead? ZBs had shorter cut-off ends in the late 70s and early 80s.

2. Do the pedals have the waffle pattern on them? Definitely a 70s model.

3. Any fancy inlay? I've seen a few later ZBs (late 70s) that had a fancy, almost mother of pearl inlay pattern - much fancier than the already fancy wood inlay.

4. Do they have the tone and volume and by-pass controls? Alot of the later ones are missing these...

Hope this helps.

All ZBest - glad to know you're still around!
LC

Duncan Hodge · Post by **Duncan Hodge** » 7 Oct 2005 5:52 pm

I'm submitting my post on account of nobody else has for the past 15 days. We who are of the ZB persuasion should not be made to feel "less than" by those who don't understand us. So what if our pitiable guitars have incomprehensible mechanics made out of motorcycle spokes. They still look the best and sound the best, at least to us and that's what counts. Plus, Jerry played one and I love to listen to Jerry.
Also, I wouldn't have found my fantastic ZB, if it weren't for this post. I would, however, like to ask Andrew, again, if I could buy back the one I stupidly sold to a guy who sold it to him. This was also a result of this post.
In any event, or occurance, I submit this post for bumping and will continue to do so until either Andrew, or Steve Takacs sells me their ZB.
Best wishes, Duncan

Lyle Clary · Post by **Lyle Clary** » 7 Oct 2005 6:19 pm

I would never sell my ZBD10 but am thinking of getting something a little more easy to play but with the same rich sound. Any ideas out there among you ZB Nuts?

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1969 ZB Custom D10, BMI S10, 1981 Peavy Musician Mark III, 15 Inch Black Widow, custom enclosure

Larry Chung · Post by **Larry Chung** » 7 Oct 2005 9:50 pm

Hey Duncan and Lyle:

Thanks for the bump. Just returned from a show here in SF where my ZB S-11 through my Webb sounded GREAT. Super thick and creamy!

Lyle, if you're looking for a ZB-esque guitar that's a bit lighter, may I suggest a BMI? They're very well built, sound great, and ... have the ZB pedigree... (:

Keep the ZB info coming. BTW - I know 2-3 people here in the SF Bay Area who are looking for ZBs (no, not me or any of my relatives). They're starting to get scarce!

All ZBest,
Larry