Copedent question

Instruments, mechanical issues, copedents, techniques, etc.

Moderator: Shoshanah Marohn

Post Reply
User avatar
Ryan Wells
Posts: 19
Joined: 27 Nov 2021 11:09 pm
Location: Midwest, USA

Copedent question

Post by Ryan Wells »

I recently picked up an Emmons P/P set up with with this copedent. It's slightly different than what I'm used to, but not much. Is there a name for these copedents? Any idea where they originated or who uses them?


Image
User avatar
Jerry Overstreet
Posts: 12622
Joined: 11 Jul 2000 12:01 am
Location: Louisville Ky

Post by Jerry Overstreet »

Ryan, what you have there is essentially the Emmons copedent. Very common modern setup.

That setup on the front neck raises and lowers E's both on the left knee and also lowers B to Bb on the vertical LKL. It also has the pedals 1,2,3 arranged per Buddy Emmons setup vs the Jimmy Day setup which reverses pedals 1 & 3.

The C6 rear neck is also pretty standard Emmons.

Pretty common changes...you should be good with what you got.
It could be changed to the setup you are used to, but changes on a push pull Emmons really need specialized technicians.

Just play and enjoy!
User avatar
Roger Rettig
Posts: 10548
Joined: 4 Aug 2000 12:01 am
Location: Naples, FL
Contact:

Post by Roger Rettig »

I agree with Jerry; a very commonly-used set up and more than adequate for a lifetime of playing.

It wouldn't suit me, of course: I'm a dyed-in-the-wool 'Day' advocate and, on the few occasions I've considered trying out a push/pull guitar, the fact that it would need switching from ABC to CBA and that a p/p expert would have to be involved was enough to put me off.

Anyway, Ryan: it's a pretty standard Emmons layout on both necks.
Roger Rettig - Emmons D10
(8+9: 'Day' pedals) Williams SD-12 (D13th: 8+6), Quilter TT-12, B-bender Teles and several old Martins.
----------------------------------
User avatar
Ryan Wells
Posts: 19
Joined: 27 Nov 2021 11:09 pm
Location: Midwest, USA

Post by Ryan Wells »

Thanks to you both. The copedent for my original PS must have been a slight tweak from Emmons and I didn't realize it.
User avatar
Jerry Overstreet
Posts: 12622
Joined: 11 Jul 2000 12:01 am
Location: Louisville Ky

Post by Jerry Overstreet »

You're welcome of course. Many players personalize their tuning to achieve the things they feel necessary. There are many choices with the pedal steel, but I think you are good where you are now even if it takes some acclimation.

Happy pickin'!
Post Reply