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- Andy DePaule
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My 5 Pedal Mullen Tuning
Hi Tim,
I usually like 4 pedals, but ordered it with the 5th so I could experiment.
Right now mine is tuned like this, But I'm going to change it a little.
I really want to move pedal #5 to the #1 Position where I like it best.
That works well alone, but also works well with the 2nd pedal B to C#.
Also because I have now acquired a Promat D-10 with standard Emmons set up I will move the lowers for the E's to the left leg.
The only reason I have it on the right is because 40 years ago I started with a PSG that had just that and it was RKL so got used to there, Old dog new trick thing.
I've had the E to F# on RKR since 1978 and like it that way.
This is what I'm gonna change it to as soon as I have the time;
Quite a few steelers have started to use this Pedal #1 change, but some have it on a knee lever. I started using that change about 4 years ago. It has a lot to offer.
I've gotten used to using the E lower on LKR by playing the Promat. I think that change makes more sense unless there your playing a Universal tuning.
Pedals 3&4 gives A6th all the way across except for the 2nd string.
Pedals 4&5 together will give me the C6th style 4th pedal as well as a fake BooWah, Ha ha ha. But that could change over time because I doubt I'll use it a lot.
I usually like 4 pedals, but ordered it with the 5th so I could experiment.
Right now mine is tuned like this, But I'm going to change it a little.
I really want to move pedal #5 to the #1 Position where I like it best.
That works well alone, but also works well with the 2nd pedal B to C#.
Also because I have now acquired a Promat D-10 with standard Emmons set up I will move the lowers for the E's to the left leg.
The only reason I have it on the right is because 40 years ago I started with a PSG that had just that and it was RKL so got used to there, Old dog new trick thing.
I've had the E to F# on RKR since 1978 and like it that way.
This is what I'm gonna change it to as soon as I have the time;
Quite a few steelers have started to use this Pedal #1 change, but some have it on a knee lever. I started using that change about 4 years ago. It has a lot to offer.
I've gotten used to using the E lower on LKR by playing the Promat. I think that change makes more sense unless there your playing a Universal tuning.
Pedals 3&4 gives A6th all the way across except for the 2nd string.
Pedals 4&5 together will give me the C6th style 4th pedal as well as a fake BooWah, Ha ha ha. But that could change over time because I doubt I'll use it a lot.
Inlaid Star Guitar 2006 by Mark Giles. SD-10 4+5 in E9th; http://luthiersupply.com/instrument-gallery.html
2017 Mullen SD-10, G2 5&5 Polished Aluminum covering. Custom Build for me. Great Steel.
Clinesmith Joaquin Murphy style Aluminum 8 String Lap Steel Short A6th.
Magnatone Jeweltone Series Lap Steel, Circa 1950? 6 String with F#minor7th Tuning.
1956 Dewey Kendrick D-8 4&3, Restoration Project.
1973 Sho~Bud Green SD-10 4&5 PSG, Restoration Project.
2017 Mullen SD-10, G2 5&5 Polished Aluminum covering. Custom Build for me. Great Steel.
Clinesmith Joaquin Murphy style Aluminum 8 String Lap Steel Short A6th.
Magnatone Jeweltone Series Lap Steel, Circa 1950? 6 String with F#minor7th Tuning.
1956 Dewey Kendrick D-8 4&3, Restoration Project.
1973 Sho~Bud Green SD-10 4&5 PSG, Restoration Project.
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Andy, I have all three of those changes you want on your 1 pedal on my RKL. That's how my D10 Mullen that I used to have was set up, so that's how my current Williams D10 is set up, now.
I just got the 6 string lower pull train from Williams the other day and put it on and it worked perfect on the first try. I bet that'll never happen again.
I never did learn to use the C6 on that Mullen, so I took the pedal all the way to the right and made it a 4th string E to F# change on the E9 neck, I really liked that pedal a lot.
I just got the 6 string lower pull train from Williams the other day and put it on and it worked perfect on the first try. I bet that'll never happen again.
I never did learn to use the C6 on that Mullen, so I took the pedal all the way to the right and made it a 4th string E to F# change on the E9 neck, I really liked that pedal a lot.
- Andy DePaule
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One issue with the Mullen for me.
Hi Tim,
Good idea if your not using those C6th pedals.
Also I think the the A to B first C6th pedal would also work just as well on a knee?
Not sure because I'm still trying to learn the C6th neck on my Promat.
One issue with the Mullen for me is the lack of room with the large pull rods and small retaining pins.
I tried to make a small change on it the other day, but with all those rods bunched up close together, I found it near impossible to get the rod into the bell crank and hold it there while trying to put the retaining pin in place. Gave up after a frustrating hour.
I think it needs to have a whole bunch of rods pulled out and then reset in order.
I do want to get those 3 pulls onto the first pedal where they work best for me.
Will try again another day after a valium.
Good idea if your not using those C6th pedals.
Also I think the the A to B first C6th pedal would also work just as well on a knee?
Not sure because I'm still trying to learn the C6th neck on my Promat.
One issue with the Mullen for me is the lack of room with the large pull rods and small retaining pins.
I tried to make a small change on it the other day, but with all those rods bunched up close together, I found it near impossible to get the rod into the bell crank and hold it there while trying to put the retaining pin in place. Gave up after a frustrating hour.
I think it needs to have a whole bunch of rods pulled out and then reset in order.
I do want to get those 3 pulls onto the first pedal where they work best for me.
Will try again another day after a valium.
Inlaid Star Guitar 2006 by Mark Giles. SD-10 4+5 in E9th; http://luthiersupply.com/instrument-gallery.html
2017 Mullen SD-10, G2 5&5 Polished Aluminum covering. Custom Build for me. Great Steel.
Clinesmith Joaquin Murphy style Aluminum 8 String Lap Steel Short A6th.
Magnatone Jeweltone Series Lap Steel, Circa 1950? 6 String with F#minor7th Tuning.
1956 Dewey Kendrick D-8 4&3, Restoration Project.
1973 Sho~Bud Green SD-10 4&5 PSG, Restoration Project.
2017 Mullen SD-10, G2 5&5 Polished Aluminum covering. Custom Build for me. Great Steel.
Clinesmith Joaquin Murphy style Aluminum 8 String Lap Steel Short A6th.
Magnatone Jeweltone Series Lap Steel, Circa 1950? 6 String with F#minor7th Tuning.
1956 Dewey Kendrick D-8 4&3, Restoration Project.
1973 Sho~Bud Green SD-10 4&5 PSG, Restoration Project.
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Mullen S 12
Would some kind perso who owns a Mullen S12 measure your keyhead from end to end
Many thanks
Brian
Many thanks
Brian
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- Dennis Montgomery
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Ordered my SD12 G2 7x4 April 2019 and it arrived the first week of July. Fresh from the factory it looked like this in blueberry strand mica:
Have made quite a few changes to make it the pedal steel of my dreams!
1) I wanted something more unique for a finish so removed everything from the top deck and did a custom orange vinyl wrap.
2) Swapped out the stock Mullen PU for a Bill Lawrence L712 adding a coil split toggle switch.
3) Trimmed down the arm rest so more of the vinyl wrap shows.
4) Added a left vertical knee with the Mullen kit.
5) Copedent is about 90% standard Emmons extended E9 with a couple twists. First, I downtune a whole step so play extended D9 (and let me give a huge amount of credit to b0b who guided me in choosing string gauges and recommending E meantone temperament to sweeten the tuning). Second, I split the E knees and use LKR to drop strings 3,6,11 a half step so I can get a minor chord in main grip root position.
6) Added two Mullen half stop mechanisms. One for the standard RKR string 2 change, and another I put on the 4th pedal. That one drops string 4 a half step to get a Maj7 and a whole step to get either the m7 (in combination with LKR) or dominant 7 chord in main grip root position.
I absolutely love this instrument! It stays in tune like a rock, is super easy to work on, Mike and the team at Mullen is always there when I need parts or have questions, I've been able to adjust it to the lightest touch I've ever had so playing is a joy and with the L712 coil split and Mullen tone control I can get a wide range of sounds out of it.
It's literally the last pedal steel I'll ever need
Have made quite a few changes to make it the pedal steel of my dreams!
1) I wanted something more unique for a finish so removed everything from the top deck and did a custom orange vinyl wrap.
2) Swapped out the stock Mullen PU for a Bill Lawrence L712 adding a coil split toggle switch.
3) Trimmed down the arm rest so more of the vinyl wrap shows.
4) Added a left vertical knee with the Mullen kit.
5) Copedent is about 90% standard Emmons extended E9 with a couple twists. First, I downtune a whole step so play extended D9 (and let me give a huge amount of credit to b0b who guided me in choosing string gauges and recommending E meantone temperament to sweeten the tuning). Second, I split the E knees and use LKR to drop strings 3,6,11 a half step so I can get a minor chord in main grip root position.
6) Added two Mullen half stop mechanisms. One for the standard RKR string 2 change, and another I put on the 4th pedal. That one drops string 4 a half step to get a Maj7 and a whole step to get either the m7 (in combination with LKR) or dominant 7 chord in main grip root position.
I absolutely love this instrument! It stays in tune like a rock, is super easy to work on, Mike and the team at Mullen is always there when I need parts or have questions, I've been able to adjust it to the lightest touch I've ever had so playing is a joy and with the L712 coil split and Mullen tone control I can get a wide range of sounds out of it.
It's literally the last pedal steel I'll ever need
Hear my latest album, "Celestial" featuring a combination of Mullen SD12 and Synthesizers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhh6b_x ... Ww493qAouK
Hear my album, "Armistice" featuring Fender 400 on every song:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=P ... 7lPEtsplyW
Hear my Pedal Steel Only playlist featuring Mullen G2 SD12 on covers like Candyman, Wild Horses, Across the Universe & more...
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=P ... NrvnJObliA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhh6b_x ... Ww493qAouK
Hear my album, "Armistice" featuring Fender 400 on every song:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=P ... 7lPEtsplyW
Hear my Pedal Steel Only playlist featuring Mullen G2 SD12 on covers like Candyman, Wild Horses, Across the Universe & more...
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=P ... NrvnJObliA
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Mullen G2
I have a 2021 SD-10, 4&6. Plum Pearl mica.
The most efficient, smoothest guitar that I have ever played! I have a '92 Emmons single coil pickup wound to 18.4 on it presently. I really like the tone and sustain...
The most efficient, smoothest guitar that I have ever played! I have a '92 Emmons single coil pickup wound to 18.4 on it presently. I really like the tone and sustain...
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Andy D.... All chrome!!! Weren't you concerned about reflections from stage lights. Boy, I've had trouble with just the small four inch plate that my tone control is mounted in. It would blind me. I'll send a prayer up for you and your audience. You'll shoot your eye out-kid.
P S- I've even had trouble with red and blue fret markers.
In certain lighting situations, they disappear. RP
P S- I've even had trouble with red and blue fret markers.
In certain lighting situations, they disappear. RP
Emmons SKH Le Grande, '73 P/J bass, Tick tack bass, Regal high strung, and a Coral Sitar, USA Nashville 112.
I had this guitar of Stu Schulman's at my house a couple of times. It was stunning.
I helped facilitate a sale to a local guy who was moving from a Carter Starter. Slight step up, ya think?
My experience with this guitar and with Stu's S-10 G2 has been that G2's are the best feeling, smoothest operating steels I have ever touched.
Tragically, after Stu's passing (not unrelated to his stroke from years ago), the owner of this guitar has suffered a stroke and is in hospice. I will be assisting his partner (as I did Stu's) when the time comes to deal with the steel.
Brutal.
I helped facilitate a sale to a local guy who was moving from a Carter Starter. Slight step up, ya think?
My experience with this guitar and with Stu's S-10 G2 has been that G2's are the best feeling, smoothest operating steels I have ever touched.
Tragically, after Stu's passing (not unrelated to his stroke from years ago), the owner of this guitar has suffered a stroke and is in hospice. I will be assisting his partner (as I did Stu's) when the time comes to deal with the steel.
Brutal.
- Dennis Montgomery
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That's the most beautiful D10 I've ever seenJon Light wrote:I had this guitar of Stu Schulman's at my house a couple of times. It was stunning.
Hear my latest album, "Celestial" featuring a combination of Mullen SD12 and Synthesizers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhh6b_x ... Ww493qAouK
Hear my album, "Armistice" featuring Fender 400 on every song:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=P ... 7lPEtsplyW
Hear my Pedal Steel Only playlist featuring Mullen G2 SD12 on covers like Candyman, Wild Horses, Across the Universe & more...
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=P ... NrvnJObliA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhh6b_x ... Ww493qAouK
Hear my album, "Armistice" featuring Fender 400 on every song:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=P ... 7lPEtsplyW
Hear my Pedal Steel Only playlist featuring Mullen G2 SD12 on covers like Candyman, Wild Horses, Across the Universe & more...
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=P ... NrvnJObliA
That's pretty much what I said. There are classic looks like a black Emmons and a natural or tobacco Sho-Bud that make their own statement. And there's something like this. I've got mixed feelings about how I'd feel sitting behind it -- sort of like a pimp in his bling-mobile. Which could be neat but I don't know that it's me.Dennis Montgomery wrote:
That's the most beautiful D10 I've ever seen :whoa:
Hell, I'd take it for a spin.
- Dennis Montgomery
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I don't play out, just record but if I sat behind that on a bandstand I'd feel this crazy amount of pressure to have to knock everyone out with my playing to justify owning thisJon Light wrote:That's pretty much what I said. There are classic looks like a black Emmons and a natural or tobacco Sho-Bud that make their own statement. And there's something like this. I've got mixed feelings about how I'd feel sitting behind it -- sort of like a pimp in his bling-mobile. Which could be neat but I don't know that it's me.Dennis Montgomery wrote:
That's the most beautiful D10 I've ever seen
Hell, I'd take it for a spin.
It's truly a work of art!
Hear my latest album, "Celestial" featuring a combination of Mullen SD12 and Synthesizers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhh6b_x ... Ww493qAouK
Hear my album, "Armistice" featuring Fender 400 on every song:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=P ... 7lPEtsplyW
Hear my Pedal Steel Only playlist featuring Mullen G2 SD12 on covers like Candyman, Wild Horses, Across the Universe & more...
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=P ... NrvnJObliA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhh6b_x ... Ww493qAouK
Hear my album, "Armistice" featuring Fender 400 on every song:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=P ... 7lPEtsplyW
Hear my Pedal Steel Only playlist featuring Mullen G2 SD12 on covers like Candyman, Wild Horses, Across the Universe & more...
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=P ... NrvnJObliA
- John Palumbo
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Mullen G2 Uni
Took delivery a year ago July. Debated going with the single coil, but I'm glad I did. I've had no noise problems.