Hey folks, so was looking for a specific performance of Lloyd Green’s “Hogan’s Dream” from Scotty’s SGC and couldn’t find it. Thought it was odd as when you YouTube Lloyd the first videos that would appear would be these live performances that I’ve spent hours studying and picking apart.
I searched more to find all of my favorite videos from Scotty’s have disappeared from YouTube! I wanted to voice my concern on the forum and get feedback as to why. Maybe I missed an announcement on the forum but these videos are steel guitar history and should be preserved imo.
Buddy Emmon’s performance of “Rose Colored Glasses” from Scotty’s was the first song I transcribed on pedal steel…really hope these videos exist somewhere.
Scotty’s SGC performances missing
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The ISGC videos were removed due to a copyright complaint as I understand it.
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Hope they’ll be reposted again someday
I don’t think we’re allowed to discuss this because of threatened legal action from a certain organization. We just have to be patient and hope it’s resolved in our lifetimes.
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I'm gonna refer you to this thread that Brad put up last month - https://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=388929
A basic summary of the situation as I see it:
1. Last year, a number of youtube videos of performances at the ISGC were removed. The takedown notice stated they were removed due to a copyright claim. As I understand it, other videos also wound up being removed - by youtube.
2. Differences of opinion between the parties about ownership, copyrights, and permissions have been stated.
3. The forum itself is not a party to this disagreement.
4. Some forum discussions were getting heated, with accusations being made.
5. The attorney for one of the parties contacted us with concerns about these discussions.
6. We cannot resolve this disagreement on the Steel Guitar Forum.
It's not really a matter of not being allowed. The issue is how to keep this potentially contentious discussion within the boundaries of our membership agreement and forum rules and policies. With the illness and now the passing of b0b, we have had many other fish to fry. We need to focus on making the transition without b0b at the helm.
So please hang on until we can get our bearings, and then we can figure out how to handle this moving forward.
A basic summary of the situation as I see it:
1. Last year, a number of youtube videos of performances at the ISGC were removed. The takedown notice stated they were removed due to a copyright claim. As I understand it, other videos also wound up being removed - by youtube.
2. Differences of opinion between the parties about ownership, copyrights, and permissions have been stated.
3. The forum itself is not a party to this disagreement.
4. Some forum discussions were getting heated, with accusations being made.
5. The attorney for one of the parties contacted us with concerns about these discussions.
6. We cannot resolve this disagreement on the Steel Guitar Forum.
It's not really a matter of not being allowed. The issue is how to keep this potentially contentious discussion within the boundaries of our membership agreement and forum rules and policies. With the illness and now the passing of b0b, we have had many other fish to fry. We need to focus on making the transition without b0b at the helm.
So please hang on until we can get our bearings, and then we can figure out how to handle this moving forward.
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Thank you Dave.
I am sorry that the discussion got "heated" but it is a subject that has upset the steel guitar world and rightfully so.
I was saddened to see the SGF back down, because I refused to be intimidated myself.
The "other" party has seemed to drop off the face of the earth and that is fine by me.
I am in the process of recovering as much of my YouTube site as possible and I promise, if I live long enough, you will be able to see all the videos that I recorded "for free" over the years in one place at absolutely NO CHARGE.
I am sorry that the discussion got "heated" but it is a subject that has upset the steel guitar world and rightfully so.
I was saddened to see the SGF back down, because I refused to be intimidated myself.
The "other" party has seemed to drop off the face of the earth and that is fine by me.
I am in the process of recovering as much of my YouTube site as possible and I promise, if I live long enough, you will be able to see all the videos that I recorded "for free" over the years in one place at absolutely NO CHARGE.
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Scholar and a gentleman, I (for one) greatly appreciate your efforts and such.Bill Ferguson wrote:Thank you Dave.
I am sorry that the discussion got "heated" but it is a subject that has upset the steel guitar world and rightfully so.
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I am in the process of recovering as much of my YouTube site as possible and I promise, if I live long enough, you will be able to see all the videos that I recorded "for free" over the years in one place at absolutely NO CHARGE.
Thanks for all that you've done and shared over the years... Super helpful to folks who recently stumbled into the microcosm of PSG