Only one brain to play PSG...

Patrick Laffrat · Post by **Patrick Laffrat** » 5 Dec 2006 4:06 am

I have one brain but when I practise my pedal steel guitar I need much more: One brain for my right hand for picking (with one sub-brain for each finger), one brain for my left hand to control precision and vibrato, one brain for the left foot for the pedal action, one brain for the right foot for the volume control, one brain for the left knee and one for the right knee, one brain to see frets and strings and one last to listen what I play ... I don't know if there is any musical instrument which needs so many cerebral activities... And for keeping clean my "only one cerebral vascular system" of course: no smoking, no alcohol, no sugar and no cholesterol!... Pedal steel guitar is really an intellectual and healthy business.

Pedal Steel Guitar France[This message was edited by Patrick Laffrat on 05 December 2006 at 05:10 AM.]

Ray Minich · Post by **Ray Minich** » 5 Dec 2006 5:02 am

When I hit RKR the volume pedal goes full blast....

All good things come with time (I hope...)[This message was edited by Ray Minich on 05 December 2006 at 05:03 AM.]

Mark Treepaz · Post by **Mark Treepaz** » 5 Dec 2006 5:19 am

Hey Ray...That's funny! Just last night I was working on something that required me to use RKR...and the EXACT same thing was happening!

(Up until now I very rarely had to use it.)Oh well, just another thing to add to my "to do" list of things to work on.

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Mike Wheeler · Post by **Mike Wheeler** » 5 Dec 2006 7:10 am

Here's a suggestion for those who may need some ideas...

To get the most independance between your foot and knee, your foot needs to point in basicly the same direction as your upper leg. Move your volume pedal out of the way and place your foot on the floor at a point where your foot and leg feels comfortable when positioned between the knee levers. Move your knee levers (left and right) while adjusting your foot position until you find the foot position that allows the most comfort. Place the volume pedal there.

The angle of the pedal can be whatever you like. Some like it pointing straight forward with their foot crossing over it at an angle, some like it pointed at the same angle as their foot. That's up to you...whatever you like is good. Just keep you foot/leg relationship correct and you'll find it will be easiest to maintain independence.

You'll know when it's correct when you can move your knee left or right and your foot isn't forced up or down. Think of your ankle as a pivot point that allows your foot to have the most freedom from your leg movement.

Hope this helps, then again, you may already know this stuff.

Ray Minich · Post by **Ray Minich** » 5 Dec 2006 8:40 am

Thanks Mike... I know it but my ankle doesn't...

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Larry Bell · Post by **Larry Bell** » 5 Dec 2006 10:20 am

Patrick,
The answer is Automatic Pilot
The only thing a musician should be thinking about while playing is the music. If mechanical or coordination issues are occupying your mind you won't be able to concentrate on what makes YOUR music unique: the notes YOU choose to play and the nuances YOU include in your playing.

There are many methods for learning the requisite skills for the pedal steel guitar but you are the one who must choose one and DO THE WORK. This includes picking and blocking and all right and left hand technique; learning to rock on and off the A pedal with the B pedal pressed; using your right knee levers without messing up your volume pedal; finding the right pedal on C6; etc. If practiced long enough with precision they will become second nature. If they don't become second nature you will need more than one brain. Since you (probably) don't have one to spare, you need to develop your Auto Pilot.

So many questions and issues that are concerned with playing pedal steel can be resolved with knowing what and how to practice and then just DOING IT.

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Les Anderson · Post by **Les Anderson** » 5 Dec 2006 11:50 am

I don’t suppose by any chance that the pedal steel guitar was designed by and octopus, was it?

Andy Sandoval · Post by **Andy Sandoval** » 5 Dec 2006 12:00 pm

Learn to play the banjo instead, then you won't have to use your brain at all...just kidding

Mike Wheeler · Post by **Mike Wheeler** » 5 Dec 2006 12:13 pm

You're welcome, Ray. I was hesitant to even post at all 'cause I wasn't sure who knew what. Then I remembered how hard it was for me, starting out, to get basic info back in the late 60's/early 70s. So, I decided, what the heck...maybe someone can use the info.

Larry, you're absolutely correct. But, sometimes the technique needs a little refinement for the whole system to gel...at least that's the way it's been for me. So, I try to give back to the Forum whenever I can...even when it's just the simplest, most (seemingly) obvious help.

Gary Shepherd · Post by **Gary Shepherd** » 5 Dec 2006 4:49 pm

I think when I'm singing and playing steel, maybe I should just stay off the volume pedal. One less thing to worry about.

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Mike Wheeler · Post by **Mike Wheeler** » 5 Dec 2006 5:48 pm

Well, Gary....In my case, I'd just stay off the mic......then I'd have one less thing for people to COMPLAIN about.

Bill Duve · Post by **Bill Duve** » 5 Dec 2006 6:14 pm

If all I had is whats left of my brain to use I'd never play heee-hee.

Frederic Mabrut · Post by **Frederic Mabrut** » 5 Dec 2006 11:47 pm

I have a mike in front of me on stage...just for announcing the next song!

CrowBear Schmitt · Post by **CrowBear Schmitt** » 6 Dec 2006 3:26 am

One Brain is enough
gettin it partioned comes w: mucho practice
Larry B's on the $$$ as usual
gettin' it understood & down by the brain first
& then turn ON the automatic pilot

Do keep away from mind altering substances but mind altering Musik is permitted of course[This message was edited by CrowBear Schmitt on 06 December 2006 at 08:09 AM.]

Fred Glave · Post by **Fred Glave** » 7 Dec 2006 3:31 pm

I didn't know you need a brain to play this thing! Try this exercise: Take 10-15 minutes and just start playing. Not a particular song or pre determined series of licks or such. Kind of a free flow of movement using all the stuff you know. Intermittntly using all of your pedals and voume pedal etc. For me, this kind of helps make all the techiques become more second nature and don't have to think so hard. Because when I have to think hard, that's when everyone has to look out.

Eric McEuen · Post by **Eric McEuen** » 8 Dec 2006 9:04 am

"One brain to rule them all..."

Starting to learn PSG has reminded me of learning to drive. All those controls, all those places to look (not to mention coordinating the gas and clutch) - I thought I'd never get the hang of it. Now it's almost second nature.

In other areas of music, my coordination is pretty good. I've had friends be amazed at the way I can fingerpick the guitar and sing at the same time. It's no big deal to me - just something I practiced until I could get it all happening together.

I can see the same "light at the end of the tunnel" on PSG. It's just further off, and I really feel like a beginner again. (Fair enough; I am one.)