Emmons Bolt On
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Emmons Bolt On
This one looks like a nice one. http://cgi.ebay.com/Emmons-Double-Neck-8-Pedal-Steel-Guitar_W0QQitemZ280051595491QQihZ018QQcategoryZ2384QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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$4,500 is a little steep if it were a cut-tail. I'd say he might have better luck with about half that or maybe a little more, but looking at the pictures more closely, that doesn't look like a cut-tail<font size="1" color="#8e236b"><p align="center">[This message was edited by Duane Reese on 21 November 2006 at 01:48 PM.]</p></FONT>
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the add states "Late 1960's Vintage serial # D1036" which would put it at around a '67 I believe. The sticker logo looks to have been replaced by the plastic cheveron logo.I can faintly see the milled neck right behind the pickup by the pillow mount.Its really hard to tell though. Nice guitar either way!
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If you look at the C6 neck in the pictures they show that it is definately a bolt on. Also the lower return springs in the changer picture have wire clips connecting them to the changer. This feature is only on the early wrap arounds and bolt ons. $4500 is probably about the going rate on one of these guitars. The law of supply and demand.
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I have a question...My '71 Emmons D-10 came with 'White' colored Atoms on the fretboard. I see many other Emmons, even earlier than mine, with colored Atoms.
Was that an option of a color choice back then that year?
I mean I haven't seen any other white atom fretboard steels on here.
When I ordered mine from a little country store, I don't recall the store owner asking me about which type, or color of fretboard I wanted. I did have a choice of body color and extra knee levers tho.
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1971 Emmons D-10 8/7 #1568 D, Rosewood
Was that an option of a color choice back then that year?
I mean I haven't seen any other white atom fretboard steels on here.
When I ordered mine from a little country store, I don't recall the store owner asking me about which type, or color of fretboard I wanted. I did have a choice of body color and extra knee levers tho.
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1971 Emmons D-10 8/7 #1568 D, Rosewood
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This may be totalling insignificant but it looks like the pickups have been replaced. Boltons had one ply black plastic not black and white. I have heard almost all variations of new and original pickups on old Emmons guitars and they all sound amazing! <font size="1" color="#8e236b"><p align="center">[This message was edited by Bruce Hamilton on 23 November 2006 at 11:43 PM.]</p></FONT>
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As Im sure you know the early bolt-ons had invoice #'s (without the 'D' in the number).I have had and also seen 2 different types of old emmons pickups. One was all black like Nick Reeds the other has a thick white center not like the ones today.This is the style I had on mine which was #2838.There have been several guitars sold on this forum in the last year that were bolt-ons w/in the serial # range of this guitar.Here is a cool link with info on the dating of the emmons guitars.I emailed the lady selling the guitar and she is supposed to be uploading more in detail pictures. Man, I love these old Emmons..nothing like 'em.
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Trap T-the Emmons pickup with the thick layer of white showing that you have on your '66 bolt-on Emmons (and I have on both of mine) is the pickup that I have been accustomed to believing is the ORIGINAL E-66 (as most all '66 bolt-ons that I have seen with original pickups are of that type) As you mentioned Nick's bolt-on appears to have the earlier all black (like '65 wraparounds have) and is probably all original for an early '66 I believe Dyke Corson's bolt-on is another one that has the earlier all black '65 looking pickup
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My Red Belly Bolt-on with an invoice number (so late 65 or early 66) has all black pickup tops and they measure 14.6k and 14.8k AND the controls include a 100K pot. My very late Black Belly Bolt-on (sold last winter) had a serial number 1090D and was loaded with pickups with the white edged tops and the pickups were tapped to around 13 something K ohms and around 20k depending on which tap you had engaged. That guitar had a 250 or 500K pot value, I cannot remember.
Incidentally, there are so many little differences between the Red Belly Bolt-on and the Black Belly that I noticed when i had them side by side. Thickness of end plate castings, pedal stop bar size, screw locations body construction. An easy generalization is that if there was a difference in a part, that part was lighter on the Red Belly than the Black Belly whether it was electronic, cast aluminum or wood. The Red Belly has a moderate amount or roar and a lot os sparkle. The Black Belly, especially with the 20K tap engaged, just plain roared. Well, it still does with its new owner.
Edited to include this: I don't want to mislead anyone -- for example the fingers and pillars and axles were the same between the Red and Black Belly guitars. I assume the pedal racks were the same. The pedal rod connectors were heavier in the Red Belly. But the end plates, the necks and it looked like the keyheads were lighter in the Red Belly. <font size="1" color="#8e236b"><p align="center">[This message was edited by Chris Lucker on 24 November 2006 at 05:38 PM.]</p></FONT>
Incidentally, there are so many little differences between the Red Belly Bolt-on and the Black Belly that I noticed when i had them side by side. Thickness of end plate castings, pedal stop bar size, screw locations body construction. An easy generalization is that if there was a difference in a part, that part was lighter on the Red Belly than the Black Belly whether it was electronic, cast aluminum or wood. The Red Belly has a moderate amount or roar and a lot os sparkle. The Black Belly, especially with the 20K tap engaged, just plain roared. Well, it still does with its new owner.
Edited to include this: I don't want to mislead anyone -- for example the fingers and pillars and axles were the same between the Red and Black Belly guitars. I assume the pedal racks were the same. The pedal rod connectors were heavier in the Red Belly. But the end plates, the necks and it looked like the keyheads were lighter in the Red Belly. <font size="1" color="#8e236b"><p align="center">[This message was edited by Chris Lucker on 24 November 2006 at 05:38 PM.]</p></FONT>
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