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Topic: ShoBud Permanent Parts Help |
Jim Trantham
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Wyoming, USA
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Posted 18 Aug 2022 12:19 pm |
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Does anyone have changers for ShoBud Permanent for sale? The changer shaft measures .488”…
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Richard Sinkler
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aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 18 Aug 2022 1:49 pm
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What's wrong with the one's on the guitar now?
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Carter D10 8p/8k, Dekley S10 3p/4k C6 setup,Regal RD40 Dobro, Recording King Professional Dobro, NV400, NV112,Ibanez Gio guitar, Epiphone SG Special (open D slide guitar) . Playing for 55 years and still counting. |
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Jim Trantham
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Wyoming, USA
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Posted 18 Aug 2022 2:37 pm
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| Richard Sinkler wrote: |
| What's wrong with the one's on the guitar now? |
Nothing. I need 4 more to get the changes I want on both necks.
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‘51 Gibson Super 300, Carter D-12, Carter D-10, Evans FET 500, ‘65 Fender Twin, ‘69 Martin D-35… Been performing for 60 years and counting…., |
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Richard Sinkler
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aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 18 Aug 2022 3:14 pm
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Ahh. The limitations of a Permanent. Hope you find some. That would be awesome.
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Carter D10 8p/8k, Dekley S10 3p/4k C6 setup,Regal RD40 Dobro, Recording King Professional Dobro, NV400, NV112,Ibanez Gio guitar, Epiphone SG Special (open D slide guitar) . Playing for 55 years and still counting. |
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Chris Lucker
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Los Angeles, California USA
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Posted 18 Aug 2022 3:37 pm
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| Jim Trantham wrote: |
| Richard Sinkler wrote: |
| What's wrong with the one's on the guitar now? |
Nothing. I need 4 more to get the changes I want on both necks. |
Having had four Sho-Bud Permanents myself, my experience is that the fingers were different from guitar to guitar. Permanent fingers are simple and your easier solution will likely be having your fingers copied. Heck, it can be done with a vise, a hacksaw, a file or grinder and a drill press. At the same time, you can place the rod holes or adjust finger length to facilitate/time the intended changes.
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Chris Lucker
Red Bellies, Bigsbys and a lot of other guitars. |
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Jim Trantham
From:
Wyoming, USA
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Posted 18 Aug 2022 8:25 pm
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| Chris Lucker wrote: |
| Jim Trantham wrote: |
| Richard Sinkler wrote: |
| What's wrong with the one's on the guitar now? |
Nothing. I need 4 more to get the changes I want on both necks. |
Having had four Sho-Bud Permanents myself, my experience is that the fingers were different from guitar to guitar. Permanent fingers are simple and your easier solution will likely be having your fingers copied. Heck, it can be done with a vise, a hacksaw, a file or grinder and a drill press. At the same time, you can place the rod holes or adjust finger length to facilitate/time the intended changes. |
Thanks Chris. I have the ability to make them, just thought it might easier to purchase some. The ones in my guitar seem to be very crudely made….
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‘51 Gibson Super 300, Carter D-12, Carter D-10, Evans FET 500, ‘65 Fender Twin, ‘69 Martin D-35… Been performing for 60 years and counting…., |
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Chris Lucker
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Los Angeles, California USA
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Posted 18 Aug 2022 8:30 pm
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Bingo. But you should see the pull release fingers on early Wrights. The hacksaw blade marks were never polished out.
The only clean fingers I have seen for early pull releases were the push-pull conversion fingers Jon Frye made in the mid Fifties for Wrights and later for Sho-Bud Permanents.
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Chris Lucker
Red Bellies, Bigsbys and a lot of other guitars. |
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Mark Perrodin
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Tucson Arizona, USA
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Posted 28 Aug 2022 3:14 pm frye
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jim,
i don’t mean to hijack your thread but i am real curious about mr. lucker’s reply. i had no idea that wright customs ever got converted to push-pull from pull release. any pics or info would be appreciated. thx chris. |
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Gary Spaeth
From:
Wisconsin, USA
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Posted 28 Aug 2022 4:31 pm
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| what parts were welded so you couldn't change setups? |
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K Maul
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Hadley, NY/Hobe Sound, FL
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Posted 28 Aug 2022 4:46 pm
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The pullers on the cross rods were welded in position.
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KEVIN MAUL: Airline, Beard, Clinesmith, Danelectro, Evans, Fender, GFI, Gibson, Hilton, Ibanez, Justice, K+K, Live Strings, MOYO, National, Oahu, Peterson, Quilter, Rickenbacher, Sho~Bud, Supro, TC, Ultimate, VHT, Williams, X-otic, Yamaha, ZKing. |
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Chris Lucker
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Los Angeles, California USA
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Posted 28 Aug 2022 7:22 pm
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Tell me what cross shafts with welded pullers you need. I got five or more dozen from Jon Frye leftover from his conversions decades ago.
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Chris Lucker
Red Bellies, Bigsbys and a lot of other guitars. |
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Barry Coker
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Bagley Alabama, USA
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Posted 29 Aug 2022 7:30 am
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Hi Jim: I'm not sure if you can use these or not I cut them with my CNC while trying to get my program worked out. There 5/16" thick about 3 1/2" total length and the standard 3/4 Radious.
They need polishing, the holes drilled and the pin for the string installed. PM me if you're Interested.
Barry
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Jim Trantham
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Wyoming, USA
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Posted 31 Aug 2022 9:20 am
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| Barry Coker wrote: |
Hi Jim: I'm not sure if you can use these or not I cut them with my CNC while trying to get my program worked out. There 5/16" thick about 3 1/2" total length and the standard 3/4 Radious.
They need polishing, the holes drilled and the pin for the string installed. PM me if you're Interested.
Barry |
Thank you. I finally milled 4 of the changers on my heavy duty drill press…. The CNC would have been a lot easier than the way I did it…
Here are 2 of the 4 I made…. Thanks again….Jim
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‘51 Gibson Super 300, Carter D-12, Carter D-10, Evans FET 500, ‘65 Fender Twin, ‘69 Martin D-35… Been performing for 60 years and counting…., |
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Barry Coker
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Bagley Alabama, USA
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Posted 31 Aug 2022 9:33 am
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Looks good your well on your way.
Good Luck
Barry
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Chris Lucker
From:
Los Angeles, California USA
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Posted 31 Aug 2022 10:20 am
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Those look great.
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Chris Lucker
Red Bellies, Bigsbys and a lot of other guitars. |
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