Humble Pie

Samuel Phillippe · Post by **Samuel Phillippe** » 21 Aug 2022 3:10 pm

Just had my first piece of humble pie with my PSG.

Thought I was coming along fine with my playing and decided to follow some advice and record myself so I can hear my progress.

Purchased a used Yamaha AW16G and spent most the day learning how to do a simple recording.....WELL from the sound of things that's about all I've learned........

Wow talk about reality and thinking or should it be stinking?

Yup the pie wasn't that good........
Back to basics.....

Sam

Dave Hopping · Post by **Dave Hopping** » 21 Aug 2022 3:54 pm

I have the closely related AW1600.It did take awhile to figure it out, but I'm convinced it's one of the best educational assists you can buy.

....Once you get past the things that serve you humble pie.

Keep at it,Sam. One thing that helps with learning arranging and recording is to get a cheapo drum machine and make your own backing tracks.

Samuel Phillippe · Post by **Samuel Phillippe** » 21 Aug 2022 4:08 pm

Thanks for the advice Dave.

Rick Campbell · Post by **Rick Campbell** » 21 Aug 2022 8:47 pm

It's all about having fun with it. If you're doing that, you are making good progress. Enjoy yourself.

RC

Samuel Phillippe · Post by **Samuel Phillippe** » 22 Aug 2022 6:36 am

Rick Campbell wrote:It's all about having fun with it. If you're doing that, you are making good progress. Enjoy yourself.

RC

And that I am doing...Don't see me getting rich playing it BUT it is fun tinkering with the pedals, and adjustments as well as the noise making (playing). At present I can't think of a better hobby....

Thanks Rick

Doug Earnest · Post by **Doug Earnest** » 22 Aug 2022 7:29 am

A recorder has pretty much made me quit. I knew it was bad, but good grief!!!

john buffington · Post by **john buffington** » 22 Aug 2022 10:05 am

A recorder is like a camera - neither one is a liar!

Jerry Overstreet · Post by **Jerry Overstreet** » 22 Aug 2022 10:11 am

What Doug said. Some of the guys I've played with always want to tape the event. They don't understand why I don't listen to the playbacks. They say it lets us hear our mistakes etc. so we can improve.

I say I already know how I play, but I'm not going to improve after over 40 yrs. so I'd just as soon not hear it.

Sonny Jenkins · Post by **Sonny Jenkins** » 22 Aug 2022 2:18 pm

Hey Jerry and Doug,,,,that's pretty much my position,,,LOL

Bobby D. Jones · Post by **Bobby D. Jones** » 27 Aug 2022 9:14 pm

A camera or video of you playing is a great Teaching/Learning tool.
It will make you, Your own worst critic. You will realize the things you are not doing correct.
It will make some people quit, Or make them get serious about the task they are trying to accomplish. And make them better at the task at hand.

Fred Treece · Post by **Fred Treece** » 28 Aug 2022 9:51 am

My only saving grace and reason for not listening to playbacks is that other players in the band suck worse than I do. I have pretty good recall for a few days after a gig, and I remember where my own trouble spots were, as well as where the entire band falters for one reasonernuther. Plus there are only so many hours in the day and I have no interest in using them up listening to great music played badly.

Len Ryder · Post by **Len Ryder** » 28 Aug 2022 10:35 am

Well, Rome wasn't built in a day.### I.M.H.O. hearing your mistakes and then trying to rectify them is the way to go.

Post by **Dave Mudgett** » 28 Aug 2022 7:20 pm

Don't put the recorder away. Just suck it up (you can take that multiple ways) and go on practicing and listening. What do they say - "Pedal steel is the instrument that it takes 10 years to suck on."

Back to basics? Yes, it's always back to basics. Every time I start to learn something new (in any field of endeavor), I have to slow down and re-think everything I know, and be willing to make (sometimes major) adjustments. No pain, no gain. Lemme see, can I come up with any other relevant cliches?

Dave Hopping · Post by **Dave Hopping** » 30 Aug 2022 2:33 pm

Dave Mudgett wrote:Don't put the recorder away. Just suck it up (you can take that multiple ways) and go on practicing and listening. What do they say - "Pedal steel is the instrument that it takes 10 years to suck on."

Back to basics? Yes, it's always back to basics. Every time I start to learn something new (in any field of endeavor), I have to slow down and re-think everything I know, and be willing to make (sometimes major) adjustments. No pain, no gain. Lemme see, can I come up with any other relevant cliches?

"Great Aches from little oak-corns grow".

Or maybe "When in Rome, shoot Roman candles".

Don R Brown · Post by **Don R Brown** » 6 Sep 2022 5:26 am

Dave Mudgett wrote: What do they say - "Pedal steel is the instrument that it takes 10 years to suck on."

I tell people "They claim it takes 5 years to work your way up to "suck". It took me 10 years, but I'm finally there!"