plans and drawings for Gibson Ultratone and Skylark guitars?

Lap steels, resonators, multi-neck consoles and acoustic steel guitars

Moderator: Brad Bechtel

Post Reply
Kip Duff
Posts: 41
Joined: 3 Nov 2014 11:01 pm
Location: California, USA

plans and drawings for Gibson Ultratone and Skylark guitars?

Post by Kip Duff »

I really like the look of the Gibson Skylarks- and I'm considering buying one. But the consensus seems to be that they don't have the same quality sound as the Ultratones, Centurys and others.

So I'm starting a build project for an Gibson Ultratone, Fender DeLuxe, or Skylark body clone (or whatever else I discover that I like). I have a great source for 1¾ wood slabs near me. Padaok, hard maple, mahogany, poplar, basswood, white ash- amazing. I can't find any building plan drawings. I did see some for the Ultratone in England (JAG), but apparently he's not selling to the US.

Does anyone have these plans- or know where I can get them?

Thanks, Kip.......
Last edited by Kip Duff on 29 Jan 2022 8:57 pm, edited 1 time in total.
User avatar
Allan Revich
Posts: 1120
Joined: 2 Nov 2018 7:04 pm
Location: Victoria, BC
Contact:

Post by Allan Revich »

I really like my Skylark. It’s small, light, looks cool, and is comfortable to play. Honestly, if people want a lap steel that sounds like a Rickenbacher, they should buy a Rickenbacher. If they want a Gibson with the sound of a P90, or a Charlie Christian pickup, there are plenty of other Gibson lap steels out there.

Personally, I like that my Skylark sounds like a Skylark, a sound that is absolutely perfect for lightly amplified playing at home without disturbing anyone else.

Not to discourage your project, which sounds like it will be cool. Might be fun to buy yourself a Skylark, and then use it as a template for your build?
Current Tunings:
6 String | D – D A D F# A D
7 String | D/f – f D A D F# A D
https://papadafoe.com/lap-steel-tuning-database
Kip Duff
Posts: 41
Joined: 3 Nov 2014 11:01 pm
Location: California, USA

Post by Kip Duff »

Allan Revich wrote: Might be fun to buy yourself a Skylark, and then use it as a template for your build?
Exactly. If I like it- keep it. If I'm not wild about it, try to clone the body and sell.
User avatar
Allan Revich
Posts: 1120
Joined: 2 Nov 2018 7:04 pm
Location: Victoria, BC
Contact:

Post by Allan Revich »

Kip Duff wrote:
Allan Revich wrote: Might be fun to buy yourself a Skylark, and then use it as a template for your build?
Exactly. If I like it- keep it. If I'm not wild about it, try to clone the body and sell.
Apparently, the main complaint is the pickup, so another option would be to put a hotter, newer, pickup in it. Keeping the original in the case for resale value.
User avatar
Jack Hanson
Posts: 5024
Joined: 19 Jun 2012 3:42 pm
Location: San Luis Valley, USA

Post by Jack Hanson »

The John Anthony Guitars (JAG) plans may be available on the Esty site:

https://www.etsy.com/uk/listing/4873560 ... e_89&frs=1
Kip Duff
Posts: 41
Joined: 3 Nov 2014 11:01 pm
Location: California, USA

Post by Kip Duff »

Jack Hanson wrote:The John Anthony Guitars (JAG) plans may be available on the Esty site:

https://www.etsy.com/uk/listing/4873560 ... e_89&frs=1
That worked. Thanks....
User avatar
Justin Wierenga
Posts: 105
Joined: 22 Apr 2020 6:11 pm
Location: Michigan, USA
Contact:

Skylark Pickup

Post by Justin Wierenga »

My 1959 Gibson Melody Maker has one of the wide Skylark pickups in it, only featured that year, and the tone of that pickup is just absolutely amazing. Like a Tele on steroids.
User avatar
Jack Hanson
Posts: 5024
Joined: 19 Jun 2012 3:42 pm
Location: San Luis Valley, USA

Re: Skylark Pickup

Post by Jack Hanson »

Justin Wierenga wrote:My 1959 Gibson Melody Maker has one of the wide Skylark pickups in it, only featured that year, and the tone of that pickup is just absolutely amazing. Like a Tele on steroids.
I would concur that any perceived shortcomings in the Skylark's sound are less on account of its pickup than on its method of string mounting.
Kip Duff
Posts: 41
Joined: 3 Nov 2014 11:01 pm
Location: California, USA

Re: Skylark Pickup

Post by Kip Duff »

I would concur that any perceived shortcomings in the Skylark's sound are less on account of its pickup than on its method of string mounting.
Where the string barrels hook into the plate? Should go thru the body like a Tele or beefier plate?
Kip Duff
Posts: 41
Joined: 3 Nov 2014 11:01 pm
Location: California, USA

Post by Kip Duff »

Thanks for the links. I've seen some of them over last week as I'm educating my self on all this.

Aggressive rock-n-rolly guitar riffs aren't my gig. I've seen some videos of someone playing a BR-9 and it sounded like ZZ Top- Papa Dafoe was in the same zone. I do real clean- but with a lot of reverb. And boy can the Vega and the Super Reverb provide. If I get off my ass and get better at Ableton Live, I'll post some tunes. Some slow bluesy, or wannabe spacey movie soundtrack hipster ambient BS.

I'm steering away from a Skylark (decent one at Guitar Center in Katy Texas). With the Gibson Ultratone plans that are on their way and the gorgeous wood at Austin Hardwoods, I've got a start. When I had my auto repair shop, a guy in the same building is a master wood craft guy. I think I can do all the small bits, but I worry about the tilting headstock. Haven't figured out how I would do it.
Post Reply