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Nick Anderson

 

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IL
Post  Posted 21 Sep 2006 9:19 pm    
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I recently purchased a Fender 400 with no undercarriage parts or pedals. I am in the process of clean up and a rebuild. Changer works great.

I will have it tuned to C6, low to High(ACEGACEG).

If I went with four knees(perhaps Pedals 5,6,7 & Cool, is there a certain knee placement sequence I should go with?

I haven't played C6 pedal too much to know what might work. I've mostly played non-pedal C6. Just looking for a set up that will enhance non-pedal type playing.

Any insight would be great! Looking for the easiest way!

Thanks,
Nick

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Paul Redmond

 

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Illinois, USA
Post  Posted 22 Sep 2006 12:41 am    
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5 and 7 should be on one knee, 6 and 8 on the other. I, personally would forget 8 and opt instead for the one standard C6 KL...dropping high C to a B. 5 and 6 are used in combination as are 6 and 7. Therefore they must be on separate levers unless you can magically make your leg swell at the proper time. If you don't want to drop the C to B, opt for the A's up to B in its place. This is an interesting concept. Zane Beck did things that way for years before ever adding pedals to a guitar.
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Paul Redmond

 

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Illinois, USA
Post  Posted 22 Sep 2006 12:58 am    
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I toyed with your idea a bit more after the previous post and this is how I'd set it up.
LKL - pedal 5
LKR - pedal 7
RKL - pedal 4 or the C-to-B drop
RKR - pedal 6
Just a few ideas. Each knee could also be mirror-imaged for optimum comfort. But your concept is super. It would be a blast to see a former non-pedal player "converting", yet not with pedals, but knees. It's easy to miss a pedal at times. Not so with knee levers especially when you've only got four to deal with. Good idea!!
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Bill Hatcher

 

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Atlanta Ga. USA
Post  Posted 22 Sep 2006 5:09 am    
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Nick. Did you buy that guitar off Ebay recently??
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Nick Anderson

 

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IL
Post  Posted 22 Sep 2006 6:10 am    
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Bill - Yep, I got the one off eBay. Already have it apart, stripping the the wood body today. Guitar sounded great,but is an eye sore. The body is actually dated a '64,not a '63. Changer is in excellent shape!

Paul - Great ideas! The best thing about this steel is that it will be easy to change around once I get it back and going.

Thanks,
Nick
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Bill Hatcher

 

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Atlanta Ga. USA
Post  Posted 22 Sep 2006 9:45 am    
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Nick. I used to own that guitar. I got right here on the forum about 5 years ago from a guy who lived up in New England. That guitar spent many many years in bars up there and was played a lot. The first floor pedal on it was worn almost half off from foot wear!! I traded it to Bill Brown out in OK. and he used to take all his Fender steels and remove the pedals and cables and use them for non pedal. He has since sold them and all the parts that came off them.
The guitar had been painted with some varnish or something like that on the top. Since the finish has already been messed with on the top, it is just as well that you do something to it. If you look on the bottom of the guitar, you will see some screw holes were there were two knee levers on it at one time.
That is a good sounding guitar. Hope you do well by it.
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Nick Anderson

 

From:
IL
Post  Posted 22 Sep 2006 10:35 am    
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Bill,

Thanks for clearing up what the holes were for!
I kept scratching my head trying to figure that one out!

I have a lot of ideas of how I want it finshed. I'll try to post a before and after pic in the future.

Thanks,
Nick
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