Emmons pedal spacing

Byron Walcher · From: Ketchum, Idaho, USA

I have just acquired a second Emmons push/pull. It is a '71 and has the older wide spaced pedals. My '74 has the narrow spacing but wide pedals, unusual but Bobbe says they made a few like this. Does anyone switch back and forth between the two? I don't know if I can get used to this. I play the C6 neck in my bands quite a bit, probably a third of the tunes. Any opinions much appreciated.
Byron

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74 Black Emmmons 8x8 Wood Necks,71 Emmons Satin Rosewood Fatback, Fender Deluxe Eight, Georgeboard, '64 Fender Pro, 66 Showman

[This message was edited by Byron Walcher on 11 September 2006 at 04:44 PM.]

Byron Walcher · From: Ketchum, Idaho, USA

I'm going to try this again, I'd have thought that someone would have an opinion or words of wisdom on this, any help appreciated.
Byron

Randy Gilliam · From: San Antonio, Texas, USA

Byron I Still love my Webb You sold Me. Good Luck Brother Randy.

Byron Walcher · From: Ketchum, Idaho, USA

Thanks Randy, glad you enjoy it, the only one sweeter is the one Bobbe got, no surprise there. I'm just wondering how many guys switch between two guitars with different pedal spacing, whether it be narrow and wide Emmons or Emmons to Sho-Bud etc. It seems kind or easy to get crossed up once in a while on the C6 neck.
Byron

Doug Jones · From: Oregon & Florida

I helped a friend with (according to Carter's PP serial# chart) a 1974 Emmons. It had the newer 2 1/8" spacing crosshafts with the older, wider pedals for the 2 3/4" spacing. My friend took the steel to a friend of his with a machine shop. They ended up removing the pedals from the pedal bar and narrowing the width at the tip. Whether they were cut or ground, I do not know. But, it did result in him being much, much happier his steel. -Good luck-

Byron Walcher · From: Ketchum, Idaho, USA

Thanks Doug, I appreciate the response but I have no interest in altering either guitar, what I'm wondering is how many guys play two or more guitars out that have different pedal spacing. I can't believe that no one does this. Bobbe says that he can do it,
Byron

Jack Stoner · From: Kansas City, MO

I went from a 71 PP with the wide pedals to a new 81 Franklin with narror pedals. I don't recall any problems other than getting used to the easier pedal action.

The last two months, at our club jams, I've been playing other pickers guitars, due to not being able to lift after surgery. I've switched between one's Sho-Bud and a HWP Mullen on the same jam and really didn't have any problems with the pedals.

Basically it comes down to "play the guitar, don't let the guitar play you".

Byron Walcher · From: Ketchum, Idaho, USA

Thanks Jack, do you play the C6 neck much of the time with the group? I only find that I have trouble with pedal 7 and 8, of course, other than the usual clams and general hacking.
Byron

Erv Niehaus · From: Litchfield, MN, USA

You can change the "shape" of the pedals by trimming them down but you sure wouldn't want to change the distance between the pedals. The spacing between the pedals is determined by the spacing of the cross shafts under the hood. The spacing on the Emmons p/p guitars varied depending on the number of foot pedals.

I recently acquired a p/p that was owned by John Hughey and it has 11 foot pedals. The spacing of the pedals is 2 1/8". A very interesting guitar. The guitar is in rather rough shape at present. It is a faded red lacquered guitar with wood necks, s/n 1526 D.

Jack Stoner · From: Kansas City, MO

Byron it was about 70/30 C6th. And to add, neither the Sho-Bud or the Mullen are the same as the Franklin that I have.

Byron Walcher · From: Ketchum, Idaho, USA

Hi Erv thanks for the response but as I said, I have no interest in altering either of these guitars. My question is how many guys play out on more than one guitar that have different pedal spacing and whether it is thought that this is a workable situation. Jack, I really appreciate your response, as I said Bobbe says he can do it, you say you can too. I played the new guitar last weekend without any train wrecks but I was kind of staying away from the last two pedals. 7 is about where 8 is on the narrow spacing guitar. I love the sound of this new guitar and really want to keep it if I think that it is workable. I've had one guy that I really respect tell me that it is not something that anyone ever gets used to.
Thanks,
Byron

Roger Edgington · From: San Antonio, Texas USA

Byron, I have a 68 D-10pp for practice and I gig on a 98 Zum. Yes, Sometimes I reach too far to the right on the Zum if I practice much. I play C6th about 50% of the time.

Byron Walcher · From: Ketchum, Idaho, USA

Thanks Roger, I'm going the opposite way, mostly practicing on the narrow spacing and playing the older guitar out. It sounds like there are a few guys who pull this off but not many, although I think that not many of us are fortunate enough to be in Bands where we get to play the C6 neck much.
Byron

[This message was edited by Byron Walcher on 15 September 2006 at 02:54 PM.]

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