Carl Smith: "The Way I Lose My Mind"

Frank Freniere · Post by **Frank Freniere** » 8 Nov 2021 6:12 am

Caught this song watching season 3 of "Narcos: Mexico" on Netflix. Sounds like Chalker (with hints of Jerry Byrd).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_y2vD7uwLuk

Roy McKinney · Post by **Roy McKinney** » 8 Nov 2021 12:44 pm

I would vote for Johnny Sibert

David Zornes · Post by **David Zornes** » 8 Nov 2021 4:11 pm

It sounds like Pete Drake is all over this.

Donny Hinson · Post by **Donny Hinson** » 8 Nov 2021 4:17 pm

Definitely E9th with pedals, so that lets out both Johnny and Jerry. I also find it reminiscent of Chalker's style (but not his tone), and it has some of that Hughey touch, too. Bar slants sound too perfect for Pete...dunno really, maybe Lloyd?

addendum - (because I have thousands of songs in my old head)

I thought I'd played that song before, it really sounded familiar. But then I remembered the very similar song by The Sons Of The Pioneers that I did quite often many decades ago. Here's a more modern version of that other song featuring Rex Allen Jr., and with similar (but less) steel work:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xgc4TDy2AN4

Chad Karnitz · Post by **Chad Karnitz** » 8 Nov 2021 5:30 pm

Itâ€™s Chalker.

Terry Wood · Post by **Terry Wood** » 8 Nov 2021 11:29 pm

I'd guess Curly "Curls" Chalker!

David Zornes · Post by **David Zornes** » 9 Nov 2021 3:30 pm

Curly could emulate other steel players aside from his own master touch, but after thinking about it I believe it could very well be Chalker.

Bill Cunningham · Post by **Bill Cunningham** » 9 Nov 2021 6:11 pm

To my ear that is classic Chalker E9 ballad style which IMO was influenced by Hughey and Pete. (And good influences too if you were a jazzer at heart but wanted to make money as a Nashville session picker!!

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This tune was posted on FB by Steve Hinson, a prolific session musician historian who I never disagree with. He said itâ€™s Pete but for once in my life I am not agreeing with Hinson.

And by the way, put on some good headphones and listen to the killer rhythm section. A couple of flattops and the piano along with the drums and bass. So rich. My favorite era and style of country music! I was just born too late and didnâ€™t go down the music career path anywayâ€¦â€¦

Bill Cunningham · Post by **Bill Cunningham** » 10 Nov 2021 9:38 am

Well I guess I will eat my words from my post above.

I got a message from Mr. Hinson and he talked with session guitarist Dale Sellers who confirmed it was Pete on the cut we have been discussing.

However, there is another version of the same song and Steve says this is Curley. Here you go. https://youtu.be/GbjwhHsOx0w

Bobby Boggs · Post by **Bobby Boggs** » 10 Nov 2021 5:35 pm

I have a lot of respect for both Dale and Steve. But it sounds more Curly than Pete to me. Even though it's not Curly's most used tone. Just having a hard time accepting this.

David Zornes · Post by **David Zornes** » 11 Nov 2021 12:03 pm

Bill Cunningham wrote:Well I guess I will eat my words from my post above.

I got a message from Mr. Hinson and he talked with session guitarist Dale Sellers who confirmed it was Pete on the cut we have been discussing.

However, there is another version of the same song and Steve says this is Curley. Here you go. https://youtu.be/GbjwhHsOx0w

Curlyâ€™s tone and approach, on this song, has influences by Pete and John. But My earlier assessment stands correct-it was Pete.

Jim Hoke · Post by **Jim Hoke** » 11 Nov 2021 1:13 pm

Best tone EVER!

Abe Stoklasa · Post by **Abe Stoklasa** » 26 Dec 2021 5:49 pm

Intro reminds me of brumley, I dunno

Rick Campbell · Post by **Rick Campbell** » 26 Dec 2021 9:37 pm

Donny Hinson wrote:Definitely E9th with pedals, so that lets out both Johnny and Jerry. I also find it reminiscent of Chalker's style (but not his tone), and it has some of that Hughey touch, too. Bar slants sound too perfect for Pete...dunno really, maybe Lloyd?

addendum - (because I have thousands of songs in my old head)

I thought I'd played that song before, it really sounded familiar. But then I remembered the very similar song by The Sons Of The Pioneers that I did quite often many decades ago. Here's a more modern version of that other song featuring Rex Allen Jr., and with similar (but less) steel work:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xgc4TDy2AN4

Do you know who's playing on the Rex Jr. cut?

RC

Walter Stettner · Post by **Walter Stettner** » 27 Dec 2021 9:22 am

Curly is on a lot of Carl Smith albums, the Columbia albums from the 1960s feature both Johnny Siebert and Curly.

Here's another track:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-F8rR2xKmw

Please note that this tracks comes from the album "A Way With Words", not as shown on the picture.

Kind Regards, Walter

Walter Stettner · Post by **Walter Stettner** » 27 Dec 2021 9:27 am

Sorry, forgot, that's definitely Pete on the Rex Allen Jr. track.

And speaking of Curly's ballad side, here's one with Hank Thompson:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gI3xSITz4hM

Steel break at 2:05 is awesome!

Kind Regards, Walter

John Sluszny · Post by **John Sluszny** » 27 Dec 2021 10:50 am

Walter Stettner wrote:Sorry, forgot, that's definitely Pete on the Rex Allen Jr. track.

And speaking of Curly's ballad side, here's one with Hank Thompson:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gI3xSITz4hM

Steel break at 2:05 is awesome!

Kind Regards, Walter

First verse too !

Frank Freniere · Post by **Frank Freniere** » 27 Dec 2021 12:38 pm

Walter Stettner wrote:Sorry, forgot, that's definitely Pete on the Rex Allen Jr. track.

And speaking of Curly's ballad side, here's one with Hank Thompson:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gI3xSITz4hM

Steel break at 2:05 is awesome!

Kind Regards, Walter

Tab for Hank's "Mark of A Heel:" https://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtop ... ht=chalker

Frank Freniere · Post by **Frank Freniere** » 27 Dec 2021 12:42 pm

John Sluszny wrote:
Walter Stettner wrote:Sorry, forgot, that's definitely Pete on the Rex Allen Jr. track.

And speaking of Curly's ballad side, here's one with Hank Thompson:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gI3xSITz4hM

Steel break at 2:05 is awesome!

Kind Regards, Walter
First verse too !

A walk-up from "Mark of A Heel:" https://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtop ... ht=chalker

Dave Zirbel · Post by **Dave Zirbel** » 27 Dec 2021 12:58 pm

Did big Jim Murphy play with Carl in the early/mid 60's?