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Donald Dunlavey

 

From:
Jonesboro, Georgia, USA
Post  Posted 17 Aug 2006 3:51 am    
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Had a recent post on Zane Beck's tuning, Don't think its what I'm after. Bobby Lee's Extended E9 is more like what I'm after. He uses 5&4. I have 5&5 and would like to get the most Out of it. Looking for copedant to match and perhaps have something extra than standard. Hoping those of you who been doing this so much longer could guide me. Thanks
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Bobby Lee


From:
Cloverdale, California, USA
Post  Posted 17 Aug 2006 7:13 am    
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Mine is 5+5. I don't recommend that anyone copy my copedent, though. It's a bit wierd. Here's what I recommend:

Set up your middle 3 pedals to ABC.
P1 - lower G#'s to G
P5 - experiment

LKL - raise 4 & 8 to F, lower 12 to C#
LKV - lower B's to A#
LKR - lower 2 to D/C# and 9 to C#

RKL - lower 4 & 8 to D#
RKR - raise F# to G (plus whatever)

I'd also lower the 12th string E to D on the "C" pedal (P4).

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Paul Redmond

 

From:
Illinois, USA
Post  Posted 17 Aug 2006 6:04 pm    
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Bobby - That tuning's not weird!! I now use a 10-string for most gigs as it's much lighter.
Tuning - F#,D,G#,E,B,G#,F#,E,B,G#
P1- 3,6,10 to G
P2- 5,9 to C#
P3- 3,6,10 to A
P4- 4 to F#, 5 to C#
LKL- 6 to F#(also splits A to G)
LKV- splits P2 back to C on 5,9
LKR- 4 to F#
RKLfront- 4,8 to F
RKLrear- 9 to D
RKR- 4,8 to D#
This setup allows you take advantage of the A6 side of the E9 tuning using familiar fret positions,grips, AND familiar pedal and KL changes. Note that I don't even move strings 1,2 (F# and D). I learned the "D" thing from Jimmie Crawford and have been tuning it that way since 1978. Anyone interested in how the "6th" stuff is found, gmail/email me. But you'll probably find it all on your own like I did. It works well.
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Michael Barone


From:
Downingtown, Pennsylvania
Post  Posted 17 Aug 2006 6:51 pm    
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I did some 5th pedal experiments for about a year and ended up with a change that I think is handy to have. Say, for example, that your using the copedent that b0b posted here. When lowering both Es to D# and lowering string 2 to C# (using LKR & RKL together), I found it useful to have pedal 5 lowering both Es to D (strings 4 & Cool. You can go from a I6 to IV7 easily & strings 2 & 9 fit in nicely for riffs using either chord.

(edited to remove unnecessary comment)

Mike

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Scott Swartz


From:
St. Louis, MO
Post  Posted 18 Aug 2006 9:36 am    
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Having the G#-G on the 1st pedal is a GREAT change, I use it a lot. If you add the 2nd string D#-D with that, you have a G6 tuning across 8 of the 10 strings, this change is very powerful if you dig into it. I actually put the 2nd string D#-D on the pedal since most of the time I want the D note.

There are of of course pros and cons to splitting the E raise and lower between left and right (I do it as b0b suggests) or both on the left knee
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b0b


From:
Cloverdale, CA, USA
Post  Posted 18 Aug 2006 12:21 pm    
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I had an experimental pedal that did this:

P K
F# +G
D#
G# -G
E
B +C
G# +A
F# +G
E
D
B +C
Combined with the lever that raises F# to G, it gave me a C6th. Without the lever, it gives a D9 like the C6th copedent's P5.

It was fun for a while, but ultimately I realized that I didn't need it.
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Jerry Hayes


From:
Virginia Beach, Va.
Post  Posted 19 Aug 2006 8:02 am    
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Donald, here's something you could look at:


LKL LKV LKR 1 2 3 4 5 RKL RKR
F#
D# D C#
G# A
E F# F D#
B A# C# C#
G# A A#
F# G# F
E F# F D#
C# D
B A# C#
G# F# A
E C#


There's a bunch of stuff on this one!...JH in Va.

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