New Zirconia Bars
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Last year I looked into it myself ...
I contacted an Engineering Ceramics company ...
And drew up a bullet bar ... Jerry Byrd size (2 3/4" x 3/4") with a thumb indent on the rear end.
I talked with the engineer several times ... explaining what these were, etc
I received a quote ...
Minimum 100 units @ $55 per unit.
250 units @ $45 per unit.
I was excited about it ... but my wife wasn't.
The quote is expired now ... but if anyone wants to look into it ... these folks know what steel guitar bars are now ...
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I contacted an Engineering Ceramics company ...
And drew up a bullet bar ... Jerry Byrd size (2 3/4" x 3/4") with a thumb indent on the rear end.
I talked with the engineer several times ... explaining what these were, etc
I received a quote ...
Minimum 100 units @ $55 per unit.
250 units @ $45 per unit.
I was excited about it ... but my wife wasn't.
The quote is expired now ... but if anyone wants to look into it ... these folks know what steel guitar bars are now ...
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My wife and I don't think alike. She donates money to the homeless and I donate money to the topless! ... R. Dangerfield</font>
<font size="1" color="#8e236b"><p align="center">[This message was edited by Rick Aiello on 29 July 2005 at 05:23 AM.]</p></FONT>
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Ed,
I wouldn't trade my Zbar for anything. If
you decide to remanufacturer them, I'll buy a spare.
b0b,
I've noticed no tone change on my LDG between Eds bar and the BJS. How do they compare when no change/mods to tone/volum?
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I wouldn't trade my Zbar for anything. If
you decide to remanufacturer them, I'll buy a spare.
b0b,
I've noticed no tone change on my LDG between Eds bar and the BJS. How do they compare when no change/mods to tone/volum?
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lord only knows i'm no expert BUT
the greats of yesteryear didn't have bars made from some fancy alloy, seems to me they used good old steel bars and if that was good enough for them, its good enough for me...it just sounds like a lot of folks are looking for some kinda gimmick to make them sound better, i think i'll just try harder myself
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the greats of yesteryear didn't have bars made from some fancy alloy, seems to me they used good old steel bars and if that was good enough for them, its good enough for me...it just sounds like a lot of folks are looking for some kinda gimmick to make them sound better, i think i'll just try harder myself
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">quote:</font><HR><SMALL>b0b,
I've noticed no tone change on my LDG between Eds bar and the BJS. ...</SMALL><HR></BLOCKQUOTE> All I can say is 1) you need a better amp, or 2) you need to clean the wax out of your ears.
I hear a big difference in tone between the BJS and Zirconia. The BJS has more highs - no doubt about it. Zirconia is darker sounding. Both of them sustain like nobody's business, and both are virtually indestructable. I use them both a lot.
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I've noticed no tone change on my LDG between Eds bar and the BJS. ...</SMALL><HR></BLOCKQUOTE> All I can say is 1) you need a better amp, or 2) you need to clean the wax out of your ears.
I hear a big difference in tone between the BJS and Zirconia. The BJS has more highs - no doubt about it. Zirconia is darker sounding. Both of them sustain like nobody's business, and both are virtually indestructable. I use them both a lot.
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The bars are milk white. Here is a picture of me playing with one. This picture was taken 4 years and 60 pounds ago.
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Mike, thanks for the posting the photo. White --therefore based on your photo and what I have seen posted these bars are made of zirconium oxide. A tough material and when smooth has a low friction.
PS thanks Ed, saw your post after I posted here.<font size="1" color="#8e236b"><p align="center">[This message was edited by Colm Chomicky on 04 August 2006 at 04:48 PM.]</p></FONT>
PS thanks Ed, saw your post after I posted here.<font size="1" color="#8e236b"><p align="center">[This message was edited by Colm Chomicky on 04 August 2006 at 04:48 PM.]</p></FONT>
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CC...you are welcome...right, Ziconium oxide with additives of various types for various functions and colors. I tried to get black material also, but no go.
The smoothness, by Zygo measurement, was many times smoother than the "best" metal bars.
That smoothness seems to make the bar stick to your hands where the metal bars tend to slip out.
The smoothness, by Zygo measurement, was many times smoother than the "best" metal bars.
That smoothness seems to make the bar stick to your hands where the metal bars tend to slip out.
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