Which Deluxe34 stand for a Rick Model 59?
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Which Deluxe34 stand for a Rick Model 59?
Which Deluxe 34 stand would be better for my 1939 Rickenbacher Model 59 and why? 3 legs or 4?
https://www.deluxe34.com/pdfs/brochure_universal.pdf
https://www.deluxe34.com/pdfs/brochure_streamliner.pdf
https://www.deluxe34.com/pdfs/brochure_universal.pdf
https://www.deluxe34.com/pdfs/brochure_streamliner.pdf
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Since I presently have and use five Deluxe34s (an original Deluxe34 with four legs, both three-legged and four-legged Universals, and two three-legged Streamliners), for once I feel marginally qualified to offer an opinion.
Any of the three- or four-legged options for an original, a Streamliner, or a Universal would be excellent for your Ric.
Four legs are sturdier than three. This gets more and more apparent the higher the legs are raised. When played in a sitting position, the additional leg won't make much difference. If the legs are extended up to facilitate a standing position, a three-legger can get a tad wobbly.
That being said, a little wobble doesn't hinder me. One of my three-legged Streamliners is set up with double brackets to hold two instruments, and extended to play in a standing position. Some may find it a tad shakey, but it doesn't really interfere with my playing. Your results may vary.
The main difference between the Streamliners and Universals are the brackets. If it's your intention to use the stand for only one specific instrument, the Streamliner with appropriately sized neck and lower bout brackets would be ideal. You can always purchase additional brackets of varying sizes for different instruments.
If there's ever the possibility you might use the stand with an instrument of different dimensions, I would recommend the Universal, since its brackets are cleverly designed to fit many different sized instruments.
If your pocketbook is a prime consideration, the U3 should serve you well. If money is no object, opt for an original Deluxe34 with four legs, since it can be set up either as a tripod or a quad.
Be sure to check with Mark first to see if he still offers the original, since it's no longer listed on his site.
Any of the three- or four-legged options for an original, a Streamliner, or a Universal would be excellent for your Ric.
Four legs are sturdier than three. This gets more and more apparent the higher the legs are raised. When played in a sitting position, the additional leg won't make much difference. If the legs are extended up to facilitate a standing position, a three-legger can get a tad wobbly.
That being said, a little wobble doesn't hinder me. One of my three-legged Streamliners is set up with double brackets to hold two instruments, and extended to play in a standing position. Some may find it a tad shakey, but it doesn't really interfere with my playing. Your results may vary.
The main difference between the Streamliners and Universals are the brackets. If it's your intention to use the stand for only one specific instrument, the Streamliner with appropriately sized neck and lower bout brackets would be ideal. You can always purchase additional brackets of varying sizes for different instruments.
If there's ever the possibility you might use the stand with an instrument of different dimensions, I would recommend the Universal, since its brackets are cleverly designed to fit many different sized instruments.
If your pocketbook is a prime consideration, the U3 should serve you well. If money is no object, opt for an original Deluxe34 with four legs, since it can be set up either as a tripod or a quad.
Be sure to check with Mark first to see if he still offers the original, since it's no longer listed on his site.
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Thank you, Jack. That is exactly the information I was looking for. Since I am trying to facilitate standing, I’ll narrow it to the four leg models. Pocketbook? Well, I’m a professional musician, so you know which direction that goesJack Hanson wrote:Since I presently have and use five Deluxe34s (an original Deluxe34 with four legs, both three-legged and four-legged Universals, and two three-legged Streamliners), for once I feel marginally qualified to offer an opinion.
Any of the three- or four-legged options for an original, a Streamliner, or a Universal would be excellent for your Ric.
Four legs are sturdier than three. This gets more and more apparent the higher the legs are raised. When played in a sitting position, the additional leg won't make much difference. If the legs are extended up to facilitate a standing position, a three-legger can get a tad wobbly.
That being said, a little wobble doesn't hinder me. One of my three-legged Streamliners is set up with double brackets to hold two instruments, and extended to play in a standing position. Some may find it a tad shakey, but it doesn't really interfere with my playing. Your results may vary.
The main difference between the Streamliners and Universals are the brackets. If it's your intention to use the stand for only one specific instrument, the Streamliner with appropriately sized neck and lower bout brackets would be ideal. You can always purchase additional brackets of varying sizes for different instruments.
If there's ever the possibility you might use the stand with an instrument of different dimensions, I would recommend the Universal, since its brackets are cleverly designed to fit many different sized instruments.
If your pocketbook is a prime consideration, the U3 should serve you well. If money is no object, opt for an original Deluxe34 with four legs, since it can be set up either as a tripod or a quad.
Be sure to check with Mark first to see if he still offers the original, since it's no longer listed on his site.
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I have a couple of Deluxe 34 Universal 4 leg stands and I think they're fantastic... I use them with a variety of steels so the universal aspect was important to me.
Very stable, easy to set up, and pack up nice at the end of the night.
Mark's great to work with as well.
Very stable, easy to set up, and pack up nice at the end of the night.
Mark's great to work with as well.
"Don't be mad honey, but I bought another one"
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I am trying to get in touch with Mark Roeder to fabricate a lap steel stand for my 8 string aluminum frypan steel. Is he still making lap steel stands?
I can't access his web site for some reason.
Thanks
I can't access his web site for some reason.
Thanks
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I have a Ric Bakelite as well as a Silver Hawaiian. I'm not too familiar with a Model 59, but both of mine have arched backs. These were a problem with a Universal 3-leg; the guitar didn't want to sit level. Fortunately Mark makes a concave rear bracket which works really well with the Ric's arched back and I'm very happy with my U-3.
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Roger, Do you know if Mark is still making his standard models or has he completely retired? I was going to order one of his standard models (probably a Universal U-4) for my Ric B6, but maybe waited too long.Roger Fletcher wrote:I emailed Mark a couple of months ago to enquire about a double bracket. He said he had retired and was unable to undertake custom work.
Thanks,
Bill
Just the other day Mark had a few stands listed in his Reverb store but now there are 0. You could keep a watch or you could contact him and see what's going to be.
I, too, am glad for him (retirement) but it's quite a loss for the steel community. There is nothing else.
https://reverb.com/shop/deluxe34
I, too, am glad for him (retirement) but it's quite a loss for the steel community. There is nothing else.
https://reverb.com/shop/deluxe34
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Bill, Mark's reply to me was a little unclear on this. He did add that he no longer had access to the workshop. So I suspect he was selling off remaining stock but not making any more. RogerBill Eisele wrote:
Roger, Do you know if Mark is still making his standard models or has he completely retired? I was going to order one of his standard models (probably a Universal U-4) for my Ric B6, but maybe waited too long.
Thanks,
Bill