David Hartley Tuning

[Earnest Bovine]

This minor chord with descending bass works on an all pull guitar. On a PP, the raise over rides the lower, so the A# lower does not work with your A pedal engaged.
John

I reckon you are talking about this on open strings.



You are right about the C natural not being on the push/pull guitar --- unless you are Buddy Emmons and can do it by releasing the A pedal half way. Listen to the end of Greensleeves on Buddy's black album, where he does it at the end of a perfect take, in high harmonics to boot (aka gonads of steel).

[Earnest Bovine]

[all examples on open strings; xpose to taste]

Easiest is F sharp minor, requiring just AB pedals and E string raise lower. Other notes you are likely to use are all there with A B pedals. aka Paul McCartney's Michell in the original key:






B minor is easy if you have A# on the lowered B string (or perhaps on raised G# string)



E minor is useful if you have G natural available as I do


Also I use G# minor (lowering 6 a half step, then lower 7 a half then a whole)



Some other positions are available if you have as many pedals & levers as I do (A#m, D#m, Dm)

[Jason Lynch]

John, I personally don't miss that particular lever in the slightest, perhaps because, with my limited experience, I never really used it much anyway. And the string 6 whole tone lower that replaces it is much more useful, particularly if, like me, your learning a few of David's Tabs.

[John Goux]

Gracias Ernesto!
I heard this minor progression on a George Strait song today, "I've come to Expect It" so it is for everyone.
Good to see it in standard notation with explanation. Helped me to find the notes and pedals.
The easiest is the one Marty pointed out, your B minor. I wonder how the many PP players play this progression, it that is not available to them.
Thanks, John

[William Carter]

Does anybody know David's D10 setup? I'm trying to copy it myself, but can't figure out how he possibly fits the P5 changes for the E9 on the same pedal used for P5 on C6 without creating a very hard pull. I saw he had a D10 Rains.

[James Kerr]

For all those here interested in David, you can find him living quietly on the UK Steel Guitar Forum, I'm sure he would welcome your interest.

https://www.thebritishsteeliessociety.co.uk/

James Kerr
Scotland

[Lane Gray]

My Zum, as well as my previous MSA, had two pedals doing double duty. While I do notice that P4 and P5 are stiffer than the other 6, it's not really objectionable.
It's also possible that:
1) David put P5 on a knee to avoid the double-footing of 5 and 7, or;
2) he's got 9 pedals.

[William Carter]

It was easy enough to count that he had 8 pedals on the Rains d10.

[Lane Gray]

I don't remember seeing that guitar, so it's easy to get it wrong