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Topic: B&C pedals -tuned together? |
Terry Gann
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Overland Park, Kansas
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Posted 21 Jun 2006 7:33 am |
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I'm not a total newbie but...
B & C pedals are still the most difficult thing for me to get tuned on my Sierra Artist! I know this is a "light duty" steel and may be some of the problem. I guess its cabinet drop or something. (Emmons setup) B & C pedals tuned by themselves to the meter just go way flat when both are engaged. The 2minor chord sounds terrible. I slant my bar a bit to compensate and that helps but the chord still has beats in it. Is this a normal condition for most steels? It really makes me nervous to check the B pedal by itself, after I've just tuned the 2 minor chord, and have it so sharp. A&B pedals down does not seem to have this problem. I know of no use for the C pedal by itself so that seems to scare me less if it meters off. What could I do to improve the B&C tuning? |
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Donny Hinson
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Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 21 Jun 2006 7:37 am
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No.
On the other hand...
How it looks on some "meter" isn't nearly as important as how it sounds! (IMHO)
Of course, you could also just be pressing too hard on the pedals. That will make almost any steel go crackers.[This message was edited by Donny Hinson on 21 June 2006 at 08:39 AM.] |
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Bobby Lee
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Cloverdale, California, USA
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Posted 21 Jun 2006 7:56 am
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Tune the A and B pedals first. Then tune the C pedal with the B pedal down (B+C).
Most people tune the 4th string F# note flat to match the 5th string C# note.
Don't retune your B pedal to match your C pedal. Tune the C pedal to match the B pedal.
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John Bechtel
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Nashville, Tennessee, R.I.P.
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Posted 24 Jun 2006 9:08 pm
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b0b's got that correct! Tune your (C)-pedal with your (B)-pedal DOWN also. When you have it sounding good, you'll discover that your (C#)=(A-Pedal) and your (C#)=C-Pedal are not the exact same pitch! And also, your 4th. string (F#) will not match str. #1-F#. Nothing to worry about, just play! _ _ _ _
Well. I had to EDIT to correct the spelling for b0b again and also to keep my (A)-(B)-(C) pedal~labels straight!
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[This message was edited by John Bechtel on 24 June 2006 at 10:10 PM.] [This message was edited by John Bechtel on 25 June 2006 at 10:23 AM.] |
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Winston Street
From:
Laurel, Mississippi, USA
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Posted 25 Jun 2006 5:08 pm
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Terry,
I use the Jeff Newman chart which tunes the C pedal to: string 4 ='s -3 Hz and string 5 ='s -4 Hz's. A pedal tunes -4 Hz and pedal B tunes -1.5 Hz.. Works for me, but you can try it to see if it sounds right to your ear.
Winston |
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