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Jean-Paul Bataille
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I'm finally satisfied...

Post by Jean-Paul Bataille »

... in the search of a good tone.
I have to play the weiss for a puppet show, can't have any microphone, so PU's only (God only knows when the show will be played live, but that's another story).
This is not the "traditionnal" weiss tone (whatever that means), but after lots of trial and errors, I found something not technically difficult to implement, to match the music :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCFN5WrUT6g
Not for everyone, but works for me.
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Post by Nicholas Cox »

Dreamy. Sounds nice :)
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Sounds very cool. I like it.

I went to your channel and checked out some of your other videos. Your acoustic fingerstyle swing and blues on standard guitar really knocked me out! All original compositions as well.

Great music and great playing!
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Post by Gene Tani »

Really nice, what kind of pickup is that? Did you consider an IR system like Fishman's Aura?

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Thanks for listening.

I use YT to put the tunes for the puppet show in order to listen and memorize them, so here is a new one :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vF2ELMA7Py0
I didn't even realized this was a 5/4 time signature until I wrote the tab...

Bill : I don't play much the regular guitar these days, but thanks for listening. I wrote a lot in Drop G tuning, much less in open D tuning.

Gene : I have an Aura (the Jerry Douglas model). I don't like it. For some reason, there is something wrong (to my ears) in those type of system. I use a Rare Earth Fishman) and a Schatten on this weiss.
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Post by Andrea Tazzini »

Nice tone! I like it
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Post by Bill Leff »

Jean-Paul Bataille wrote:Thanks for listening.

Bill : I don't play much the regular guitar these days, but thanks for listening. I wrote a lot in Drop G tuning, much less in open D tuning.

I know it’s your personal choice, but I hope you come back to it. Your compositions and execution are superb, and I’d bet it connects with a lot of listeners.
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I know it’s your personal choice, but I hope you come back to it. Your compositions and execution are superb, and I’d bet it connects with a lot of listeners.
Well, I found a personal voice with regular guitar. Done.
Now I would like to do the same with weissenborn.
After that I'm thinking about the hurdy-gurdy, about which I know nothing.[/quote]
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Very nice, Jean-Paul!
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Post by Earnest Bovine »

Beautiful. I never imagined something so interesting could come from just minor triads.
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Earnest Bovine wrote:Beautiful. I never imagined something so interesting could come from just minor triads.
The harmonic possibilities are quite narrow, indeed, but these parallel progressions of minor chords seem to have a mind of their own. A cinematic character I find appropriate for the puppet show I'm working on.

Very different than the open D major tuning. They are the only tunings I play. So I put a Keith peg on the third string to go from major to minor and back.

Another one :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LEw8EqHUFQ
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Another one :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xg-_ywe6OiU

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Post by Andy Volk »

Beautiful and cinematic, Jean-Paul.I second Bill's post - some mighty nice standard guitar as well. Regardless of instrument you have your own bag which is hard to do.
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Post by Jean-Paul Bataille »

Andy : It's not hard (nor easy either), but the only thing I can do. I'm just not good at playing others music.

Another one for the puppet show :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsNrZusRRSI
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Yet another one :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qut4mQaz-_4

Happy new year !
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Can you give more details on the pickup? It looks like a Rare Earth but you say you use a Schatten. Is it a stereo combination of electric and soundboard? Whatever....I like the sound. I use a Baggs M1, sometimes with a Fishman dreadnaught imaging pedal.
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Kevin :
Fishman Rare Earth *and* Schatten HFS (the old Macaferri model that I used in a gypsy guitar).
Each with a dedicated jack output (I don't use stereo jacks on instruments)
Hard pan left and right respectively.
Now there is also some pedals geekery, two reverbs, one delay, a modulation unit, and an old Raven Labs preamp, in some involved configuration.
The whole thing ends up with 4 discrete signals on any mixer.
Large range of possibilities, and very easy manual changes on the fly. No memories nor MIDI.
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Post by Brooks Montgomery »

Jean-Paul, beautiful sounds. Assuming you're using nickel stirngs with that pickup, or will Phosphor-Bronze work with it?
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Brooks :
no, phosphor bronze in the weiss. The Fishman is voiced for them, as most of soundhole PU's. Nickel strings on those emphasize the wound strings too much. The Schatten don't care anyway. of course, being a piezo.
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The puppet show soundtrack following :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awBlRtAHzDM
Since one have to stop somewhere, I decided tomorrow there will be 33 tunes available for the show (for some reason, I like when the numbers are 22, 33 or 44)
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