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Colin Andrews · Post by **Colin Andrews** » 12 Dec 2020 2:53 pm

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Jack Hanson · Post by **Jack Hanson** » 12 Dec 2020 3:37 pm

Have you checked out Glenn Ross Campbell with Juicy Lucy or The Misunderstood?

Colin Andrews · Post by **Colin Andrews** » 12 Dec 2020 3:53 pm

scott murray · Post by **scott murray** » 12 Dec 2020 3:56 pm

I don't know about angry but I've heard some ferocious steel. Buddy Emmons comes right to mind, especially the solo at about 1h 29m here: https://youtu.be/iGb9XLFY6C4

Paul Franklin played on a Megadeth album or 2. I believe he's on this tune: https://youtu.be/lPDAA83GN_A

as for dark and moody steel, there are plenty of examples... not sure where to begin. but this Johnny Paycheck/Lloyd Green cut comes to mind: https://youtu.be/aqunV99xBfM

Dean Holman · Post by **Dean Holman** » 12 Dec 2020 4:32 pm

Ricky Skaggs did a song called â€œWoman, You Wonâ€™t Take Mineâ€. Lloyd Green played some pretty mean sounding steel on it., a lot of attitude. That song is on Skaggs Coming Home To Stay album.

scott murray · Post by **scott murray** » 12 Dec 2020 4:53 pm

maybe Skunk Baxter's break at the end of Steely Dan's Fire In The Hole?
https://youtu.be/9PwkU4nsJM8

Colin Andrews · Post by **Colin Andrews** » 12 Dec 2020 5:18 pm

Fred Treece · Post by **Fred Treece** » 12 Dec 2020 5:41 pm

Hal Rugg on this Osborne Bros tune. Itâ€™s just the intro, but it is lonesome ornery and mean in a trad country style kinda way.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MYUPEcUBZyQ

Mike Auman · Post by **Mike Auman** » 12 Dec 2020 6:53 pm

Sneaky Pete, 1969: https://youtu.be/EwAsOPWJt8A

Bill Sutton · Post by **Bill Sutton** » 13 Dec 2020 6:02 am

Buddy Emmons..."The Great Stream". Sounds Vicious.

https://youtu.be/Us9HUrkycAQ

Scott Akers · Post by **Scott Akers** » 13 Dec 2020 7:30 am

Frank Black, â€œAt the End of Milesâ€.

https://youtu.be/zVPOi-XTBMc

Curt Trisko · Post by **Curt Trisko** » 13 Dec 2020 9:18 am

scott murray wrote:as for dark and moody steel, there are plenty of examples... not sure where to begin. but this Johnny Paycheck/Lloyd Green cut comes to mind: https://youtu.be/aqunV99xBfM

I have never heard that one before. It definitely comes very a different place than his other songs and other songs in the genre. Here's another song of his from the same era: https://youtu.be/ZZlZcXJtzsw. It's an angry song, but Lloyd Green's pedal steel lightens it up instead of darkening it.

The OP hits on a truth about the instrument. It really isn't suited to angry moods. I think none the posted links emote anger to any comparable extent to a lot of other instruments.

A few years ago a contributed some pedal steel phrases to an ambient music project. A couple of them had an angry/irritable/tortured feel. I think they ended up in the second half of this part of the album: https://youtu.be/wF3ZlAQPtvs. Aside from that, I'm having a hard time thinking of examples of 'angry' steel.

Bob Carlucci · Post by **Bob Carlucci** » 13 Dec 2020 10:02 am

This is a tongue in cheek video , and yes it is very angry sounding, all the while being done by a man I perceive in my mind as being quite gentle... bob

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNY_R3FmmBw

Fred Treece · Post by **Fred Treece** » 13 Dec 2020 12:02 pm

That was great, Bob! Thanks for posting.

I guess Iâ€™m not sure what the OP means by â€œangryâ€. The song I posted is about being tired of being lonesome, and I thought the steel intro reflected that frustrated (maybe not quite pissed off) emotion perfectly, without going into the metal zone like Milo did so expertly. But what do I know. Dark and moody are fairly common in pedal steel playing, by comparison.

Ricky Davis · Post by **Ricky Davis** » 13 Dec 2020 1:31 pm

This just now in from Lloyd Green.

When I recorded â€œIt Wonâ€™t Be Long( Tilâ€™ Iâ€™ll Be Hating You)â€ with Paycheck way back in the experimental period where they let me play anything I could conceive, I thought Johnny P. sounded angry on this song so I played â€œdementedâ€, slightly crazy!

Lloyd Green

Colin Andrews · Post by **Colin Andrews** » 13 Dec 2020 1:44 pm

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Colin Andrews · Post by **Colin Andrews** » 13 Dec 2020 1:52 pm

Brooks Montgomery · Post by **Brooks Montgomery** » 13 Dec 2020 4:38 pm

Bill Sutton wrote:Buddy Emmons..."The Great Stream". Sounds Vicious.
https://youtu.be/Us9HUrkycAQ

The beginning of that song reminds me a lot of Zappa.

Kenneth Caine · Post by **Kenneth Caine** » 13 Dec 2020 6:06 pm

Pink Floyd, One of These Days. Lots of lap steel videos on youtube. Do a search.

scott murray · Post by **scott murray** » 13 Dec 2020 6:58 pm

Kenneth Caine wrote:Pink Floyd, One of These Days. Lots of lap steel videos on youtube. Do a search.

bingo.
I knew there was an obvious one I was forgetting

Bob Hoffnar · Post by **Bob Hoffnar** » 13 Dec 2020 9:17 pm

I frequently get calls to play angry noise type music.

Here is something I did a while back using difference tones:

https://youtu.be/yLO-Yh9QDgs

Then this sort of soloing has its place;

https://youtu.be/ynJooh88uZQ

This was a super fun session:

https://ingebrigtflaten.bandcamp.com/track/mole-2

Fred Treece · Post by **Fred Treece** » 13 Dec 2020 9:53 pm

Bob...holy crap that is some wild stuff! That rhythmic figure on the Young Mothers tune is intoxicating. Thought the drum solo was gonna give me a heart attack! Really enjoyed all 3 cuts, and your playing on the 2nd one is exceptional, like you could have been the steel player for Sun Ra.

Bob Hoffnar · Post by **Bob Hoffnar** » 14 Dec 2020 5:42 am

Letâ€™s not forget the sacred steel guys and Dan Tyack. There music isnâ€™t about anger but is plenty aggressive.

Mike Neer · Post by **Mike Neer** » 14 Dec 2020 6:17 am

This is about is angry and dissonant as I have recorded, so far.... This was featured on a tribute CD to Jeff Beck on a German label and is the first cut on the CD.

https://mikeneer.bandcamp.com/track/jeffs-waltz-single

Olaf van Roggen · Post by **Olaf van Roggen** » 14 Dec 2020 7:17 am

When I was in my teens,The New Riders of the Purple sage with Buddy Cage on "kick in the head" sounded aggressive to me.
I learned to appreciate it much later.

https://youtu.be/yz9kg_75joA