Delay suggestions
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Delay suggestions
Hi all - out there!
I'm still playing steel without a delay, just reverb and like to get your inputs on what brand is worth to keep an eye on before buying one. I've once tried a Boss DD7 but it sounded like tin and really not that great-maybe I used a wrong setup.
What brand are you using out there and what are your recommented settings (delay time, repetitions,...).
Thanks,
Detlef
I'm still playing steel without a delay, just reverb and like to get your inputs on what brand is worth to keep an eye on before buying one. I've once tried a Boss DD7 but it sounded like tin and really not that great-maybe I used a wrong setup.
What brand are you using out there and what are your recommented settings (delay time, repetitions,...).
Thanks,
Detlef
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Empress Effects EchoSystem is fantastic.
You will not run out of options, and Empress continues to add algorithms.
https://empresseffects.com/products/echosystem
You will not run out of options, and Empress continues to add algorithms.
https://empresseffects.com/products/echosystem
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Frenzel MB-50 head.
Spaceman, Empress, Origin, Eventide, Pigtronix.
I second the Empress Echo System unit. It has a wide variety of PSG friendly presets and a virtually unlimited range of reverb /delay sounds. The "ducking" delay is particlarily useful when a delay AND a clean sound is desired. I have had mine for more than a year and still find sounds to save.
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Hi, I have been going through several delay pedals in the last few days, being unhappy with trying to find a subtle but nice sounding delay. I have a Boss DD3 which a lot of people like, a Maxon AD10 analog delay and a Zoom MS50g multi fx pedal.
The Maxon has some weird artifacts I cannot seem to dial out so I have given up on it. The Boss DD3 is pretty good, changes my tone slightly brighter but can be compensated at the amp. My favorite is actually the Zoom MS50g. It is definitely the most bang for the buck pedal I have ever owned.
It has about 15 different delays, tons of reverbs and chorus etc. I actually like the Memory Man analog delay in this pedal and is what I am using. I know its a digital pedal emulating an analog delay but its warm, and sounds great to me with no weird artifacts. I use it as a slapback, repeats all the way down so just one repeat, delay time around 220ms, about 40% mix.
Another plus to me it uses AA batteries instead of 9v....
Hope this helps....
The Maxon has some weird artifacts I cannot seem to dial out so I have given up on it. The Boss DD3 is pretty good, changes my tone slightly brighter but can be compensated at the amp. My favorite is actually the Zoom MS50g. It is definitely the most bang for the buck pedal I have ever owned.
It has about 15 different delays, tons of reverbs and chorus etc. I actually like the Memory Man analog delay in this pedal and is what I am using. I know its a digital pedal emulating an analog delay but its warm, and sounds great to me with no weird artifacts. I use it as a slapback, repeats all the way down so just one repeat, delay time around 220ms, about 40% mix.
Another plus to me it uses AA batteries instead of 9v....
Hope this helps....
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Delay pedals
I have a few Delay pedals DD-3, Hilton and Neunaber are my main three but if your looking to try something that won't break the budget and sounds GREAT.
This little Donner pedal gives a lot of sound from a small package. Has to have a 9v wall wart not big enough for internal battery. Less than $30.00 on ebay and cheaper than that if you find a used one.
Good Luck
Barry
This little Donner pedal gives a lot of sound from a small package. Has to have a 9v wall wart not big enough for internal battery. Less than $30.00 on ebay and cheaper than that if you find a used one.
Good Luck
Barry
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Re: Delay suggestions
If you're new to the world of effects, then I recommend getting a multi-effects unit to familiarize yourself with how all the different effect variables (and amp simulations) interact and can be tweaked. Tinkering with that will get you in the neighborhood of the sounds you're looking for - and then you'll have a head start on buying gear to really zero in on your tone.Detlef Webert wrote:Hi all - out there!
I'm still playing steel without a delay, just reverb and like to get your inputs on what brand is worth to keep an eye on before buying one. I've once tried a Boss DD7 but it sounded like tin and really not that great-maybe I used a wrong setup.
What brand are you using out there and what are your recommented settings (delay time, repetitions,...).
Thanks,
Detlef
When I started out on steel guitar I bought a used Vox ToneLab LE multi-effects unit. My impression is that it was made for electric guitar and most of the presets are downright goofy on steel guitar. The number of effects, the variations within them, and the control you have over them with that unit is overwhelming, but once you start to learn how to use it, you quickly develop your own sensibilities for which effect settings create a well-rounded sound and which don't.
I've come to prefer the delay settings I've found on it and use them all time. There are several presets to choose from and then you can make minute adjustments within them. That unit has made me able to have pinpoint accuracy for additional effects that I search for.
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with a tap tempo switch the echoplex can give you a 4
second delay so it's kinda like the sound on sound
function on an actual echoplex ep-3. long ago i had
an ep-3 and as soon as i started playing the ep103
it brought to mind that feel and sound. i sometimes
like the warble of a tape delay that is breaking down
and this does that admirably. dispatch master is
awesome too and having both makes for some
interesting delay stacking.
second delay so it's kinda like the sound on sound
function on an actual echoplex ep-3. long ago i had
an ep-3 and as soon as i started playing the ep103
it brought to mind that feel and sound. i sometimes
like the warble of a tape delay that is breaking down
and this does that admirably. dispatch master is
awesome too and having both makes for some
interesting delay stacking.
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