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- George Crickmore
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Does anyone know how or who to contact about ordering a new Excel?
I know the guy that builds them does not speak english. I have sent him
emails with no reply. Any help would be great.
Thanks
George
I know the guy that builds them does not speak english. I have sent him
emails with no reply. Any help would be great.
Thanks
George
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- Stu Schulman
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George,I'm pretty sure Bill Stafford is the guy,He's in Gulfport Miss.He's on the forum somewhere.
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Thanks Stu. I will give him a try.Stu Schulman wrote:George,I'm pretty sure Bill Stafford is the guy,He's in Gulfport Miss.He's on the forum somewhere.
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- Bill Ferguson
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Bill Stafford is the man. If you need contact info, drop me a message.
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new Excels
Steel Guitars Nashville usually has some new Excels in stock w/pics.
I emailed Matsuo directly last year when I ordered mine, with no US go-between. It took him a while to respond so keep trying. Our dealings were fairly smooth but not instantaneous. Payment was done with wire transfer from my bank, no PayPal or credit card. It was worth it because they are really impressive instruments on all levels.
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- Greg Cutshaw
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Mitsuo always answers my emails when I need to order parts. Usually I get an answer within 3 days. The Excel guitars are super light, very compact, have very light cases and extremely positive pedal stops. Also the pedals have constant tension throughout their entire travel. These guitars are worth the wait if you have to order them and Mitsuo just like Bill at Williams guitars will deliver on time.
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- George Crickmore
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I head from him yesterday. Looks like I may be ordering a new Excel.Greg Cutshaw wrote:Mitsuo always answers my emails when I need to order parts. Usually I get an answer within 3 days. The Excel guitars are super light, very compact, have very light cases and extremely positive pedal stops. Also the pedals have constant tension throughout their entire travel. These guitars are worth the wait if you have to order them and Mitsuo just like Bill at Williams guitars will deliver on time.
http://www.gregcutshaw.com/Excel%2012%2 ... yless.html
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New tuning at changer?
I have a older model Excel S12 25.5 scale and have always had problems with tuning 3rd string G#. If I over tighten the set screw the 12 ga. string breaks and if I under tighten the string slips and I run out of adjustment.
How do you guys like the latest tuning adjustment from both ends ??????
How do you guys like the latest tuning adjustment from both ends ??????
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Excel currently uses a Wrap-around-a-post method of securing the non-ball end of the string. It takes longer to settle in to a stable pitch than my Sierra, which locks the string down with a screw, and is almost immediately stable (stays at pitch within a few minutes of changing the string).
I tune to Bb6/Eb9 and am using a 12 gauge string. I don't have a string breakage issue, but I went through several high G#'s when it was E9/B6.
I tune to Bb6/Eb9 and am using a 12 gauge string. I don't have a string breakage issue, but I went through several high G#'s when it was E9/B6.
My Excel is 25½" scale and Mitsuo himself said he didn't like putting that string on! It is pretty much at the limit. I haven't had to change it yet but it's beginning to sound tinny so the time is getting near! I have the new system that Pete describes. I shall follow received wisdom and crank it up in small steps.
It's an 0.011" by the way.
It's an 0.011" by the way.
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Mitsuo and I are longtime friends. I'm in touch with him regularly, and see him once or twice a year. I will be happy to help, if anyone has trouble reaching him. Doug Hall, 651-442-1515, Athens, AL
I believe his main sales and tech rep is Steve Sanford, in Mississippi.
I believe his main sales and tech rep is Steve Sanford, in Mississippi.
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The Excel changer designs do seem to have changed many times over the years. I believe this may be to do with the Japanese way of thinking. The American and European instinct is to keep refining what we have, but the Japanese are more likely to throw a thing out and start over in their quest for perfection. Almost right = totally wrong. Just my impression.
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Does the current Excel Superb changer slide the changer back and forth to raise/lower pitch? Seemed to recall that was one of its chief innovations years ago.Ian Rae wrote:The Excel changer designs do seem to have changed many times over the years. I believe this may be to do with the Japanese way of thinking. The American and European instinct is to keep refining what we have, but the Japanese are more likely to throw a thing out and start over in their quest for perfection. Almost right = totally wrong. Just my impression.
Can someone explain all the changer holes to me? They're currently 7R/5L, correct? Are they fairly easy to work on?
Love to see detailed undercarriage pix!
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My Excel is 2 years old now and the changer appears to have a conventional axle. It has 7 raises and 4 lowers and they run in order from the axle
R R L R R R R L L L R
to give a variety of leverages.
I would say that these guitars are as easy to work on as any. The hardware is all metric of course, except for the leg sockets which are ½", but instead of 13 tpi they have 12 (the old British Whitworth standard).
I'll do some pics when I have some good light to take them in!
R R L R R R R L L L R
to give a variety of leverages.
I would say that these guitars are as easy to work on as any. The hardware is all metric of course, except for the leg sockets which are ½", but instead of 13 tpi they have 12 (the old British Whitworth standard).
I'll do some pics when I have some good light to take them in!
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Homebuilt keyless U12 7x5, Excel keyless U12 8x8, Williams keyless U12 7x8, Telonics rack and 15" cabs
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- Ross Shafer
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These changers all use the same dual pivot (I call it virtual pivot) concept. As does an old Rickenbacker and the new Sierra. No actual linear action, but much larger bending radii than other changer designs. The fender uses dual knife edges as pivots.
Excel Changer function: https://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=154891
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Excel Changer function: https://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=154891
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Thanks for the info, Ross!
Anyone have a changer scissor finger assembly they can loan or sell me, I need some hands on time to finally truly understand how raises & lowers work, fulcrum points, leverages, all that geeky stuff. I'll keep studying diagrams that have been posted online nonetheless. Getting dim in my golden years!
Anyone have a changer scissor finger assembly they can loan or sell me, I need some hands on time to finally truly understand how raises & lowers work, fulcrum points, leverages, all that geeky stuff. I'll keep studying diagrams that have been posted online nonetheless. Getting dim in my golden years!
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