5th knee lever for S12 E9/B6 universal

Patrick Laffrat · From: Gemenos, France

This is the current copedent of my Zum S12 8 floor pedals and 4 knee levers (mixing standard Emmons E9 + standard C6)

I have the possibility to add a fifth knee lever (LKR) .
What is the good solution? modify the whole setup ? only add a LKR? what actions for this lever?
I did not find the answer in the previous posts and I hope you will help me. Thank you.

[This message was edited by Patrick Laffrat on 05 February 2006 at 03:04 AM.]

David L. Donald · From: Koh Samui Island, Thailand

For me without a doubt lower your G#'s to G.
And maybe the D# to D at the same time.

If you can hit both LKR and LKV at the same time you get a fast Half Diminished,
fully with the C# lever

[This message was edited by David L. Donald on 05 February 2006 at 03:41 AM.]

MUSICO · From: Jeremy Williams in Spain

G#s to G.

Good one.

Hit that lever and you re in E MINOR 9th tuning.

I have it and wouldnt lose it for anything.

Jeremy Williams
Barcelona Spain

Bobby Lee · From: Cloverdale, California, USA

I'd raise 1 and 7 to G.

Patrick Laffrat · From: Gemenos, France

Thank you everybody for your explanations.
B0b why is it better raising 1 & 7 than lowering 3 & 6?

Dean Parks · From: Sherman Oaks, California, USA

I like 6 G# to F#. If you have a split available, LKR and the B pedal give you a G natural on that string.

Michael Johnstone · From: Sylmar,Ca. USA

One thing you should try is raising your 10th string to B with the same lever you're raising your 9th string to D. I couldn't live w/out it. Besides restoring the layout of a 10 string E9 on your first 10 strings,it gives you some very cool boogie-woogie motion and Chuck Berry rhythm guitar type capabilities.In other words it gives you some nice supportive things to play in R&B,Blues and Rock tunes besides just sustained chords. I put that on a "zero" pedal and put what you have on pedal 4 on a knee lever. -MJ-

Billy Carr · From: Seminary, Mississippi, USA (deceased)

The thing I see that really stands out and is missing is raising strings 1 & 2, to a G# and a D. Add raising the #7 F# to a G, all on the same KL. I use this on my RKL on a S-12U.

David Doggett · Posted 5 Feb 2006 3:13 pm

Many uni players have the D you have on pedal 6 on LKR. This is the most commonly used pedal - it takes the I to IV9, similar to going from I to IV with the A and B pedals on E9. This lever is also useful to restore the D on E9. So it does double duty. In B6 mode this lever can be used with any pedals, and by getting rid of that pedal 6, it makes it possible to used pedals 5 and 7 together.

David L. Donald · From: Koh Samui Island, Thailand

I prefer to lower to G,
but would also think,
if i didn't mind a heavy pedal,
to lower both or 1 F# to F to get the b9
to go with that 3 minor.

I rarely mentally hear minor raised from the 9
but lowered from major.

Either way on a 12, you get a 1/2 step time bomb
lurking around waiting for a bad grip....

Lowering the F# gets that out of the way,
but raising the F# leaves nowhere for the G# to be put, to build a chord,
the 4th maybe, but not as useful as the b9...

You could split the difference one F# raise
and one G# lower depending on where on the neck you play.

Gm7 b9 makes sense to me

[This message was edited by David L. Donald on 05 February 2006 at 09:49 PM.]

Patrick Laffrat · From: Gemenos, France

Thanks, Guys
for all your answers and explanations, I've the choice now, and many sets to test!
PL

Bobby Lee · From: Cloverdale, California, USA

J D Sauser · From: Wellington, Florida

After it's been sugested to me years ago, I put G#'s to G lower on LKV and moved B's to Bb lower over to LKR.
Once I had it, it made sense.

... J-D.

John Sluszny · From: Brussels, Belgium

My copedant is like yours exept ped.4 has the Franklin Change.



My LKR:1)F#-G#


       2)D#-E


       6)G#-F#

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