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Topic: 2nd string drop |
Dave Frye
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Atwater, CA
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Posted 28 Jan 2006 4:11 pm |
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| How do you get your steel to get the 2nd string to tune to D/C#? Need a little help! Thanks Dave |
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Gary Shepherd
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Fox, Oklahoma, USA
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Posted 28 Jan 2006 8:18 pm
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What kind of guitar do you have? That's a pretty standard change nowadays. If it's not already there, you can add it if you have a pro guitar. You'll just need the hardware to do it.
If the hardware is already on your guitar, you probably just need to tune it at the changer end.
I think most folks drop the 2nd string a 1/2 and whole step with a half-stop in the middle.
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Gary Shepherd
Carter D-10
www.16tracks.com
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Tony Prior
From:
Charlotte NC
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Posted 29 Jan 2006 3:52 am
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As Gary has stated..
does your Steel have the 1/2 stop for the 2nd string ? I am pretty certain that all, if not just about all Pro Steels have a 1/2 stop of some sort on the 2nd string to accomplish this.
Now I would agree that some 1/2 stops are better than others and do have a more positive feel at the 1/2 stop.
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Erv Niehaus
From:
Litchfield, MN, USA
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Posted 29 Jan 2006 7:11 am
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| If you are playing a D-10, sometimes a pull rod can be added to a string on the C6th neck to get the feel for the 1/2 stop. |
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Dave Frye
From:
Atwater, CA
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Posted 29 Jan 2006 9:20 am
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| Guys, i have a MSA single 12, it,s an old one but a good,un. I think it was definately a "Pro" guitar for it,s time. Thanks Dave |
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Mark van Allen
From:
Watkinsville, Ga. USA
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Posted 30 Jan 2006 12:12 am
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Dave, I don't know if it's obvious from the posts here, but the starting point is to make sure your string lowers a whole step, from D# to C#. Then you find a way to make a "half stop" at the D note- usually with a tuneable "feel" adjustment.
Carter steels provide a whole extra finger that's not connected to any pull rods, but allows adjustment of the feel and timing by moving the chosen pulling hole.
Recent Emmons steels use a rather elaborate under-body mechanism with adjustable springs and collars to do the same thing.
Most builders simply use the same knee lever to pull the 9th string lower (D to C#), and adjust the 9th string pull to start at the point where the second string has lowered a half step, for the feelstop, the increased pressure of the 9th string starting to pull gives the "feel stop" of the half-way position on the second string. You may not have the lower D to C# on your guitar, but there's probably a pull you can put on the same knee lever with the second string that will work in the same way.
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Dave Frye
From:
Atwater, CA
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Posted 2 Feb 2006 5:44 pm
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| Hi guys, i finlly got it done! I just tuned it on the end of the changer to go al l the way to C# and i feel it in D and C#. Works for me!!!!!!! Dave |
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