Two years later...

[Matt Greene]

I’ve been officially playing my pedal steel now for two years. I have worked hard and feel pretty comfortable behind it.

First the good news: I know where all the major variations are open and with A&B. I know my A&F positions and my D lever positions. My picking and technique are both relatively solid. I love this instrument more than my truck and my dog.

Now the not so good news: I still count up from A/pedal E-minor at the open G to get to other minors. I just can’t seem to memorize those minors for some reason! I play 99% of my scales on one fret position. I have played the church lick so many times I should be officially ordained. My band buddies think I am the next Lloyd Green but I know I’m not even a collard green, yet.

I do well in my band which is kind of a cross between the Byrds and the Rolling Stones locked in a garage with nothing but beer and cigarettes. However, if I ever sat in with some old-time country guys they would see right through me.

I will continue to work and play and make music as my ol’ flat guitars sit lonely in their dusty cases. RIP telecaster, I’ve moved on to glory.

[David Wren]

The Paul Franklin "Speed Pickin' for Minors" or whatever the actual title is helped me a lot. My suggestion.... you're already one step ahead of it all by your in depth self analysis.... good for you, you're on the right track!!

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Dave Wren
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[Tony Prior]

"RIP telecaster, I’ve moved on to glory."

Holy Leo Fender Batman !

Someone has put down the Tele" for good !

That can't be good

[Papa Joe Pollick]

IF you ain't gonna use that Tele,send it on over to my house..I'll even pay the shippin.LOL..Keep workin on that steel,you'll get'er done..PJ

[Dave van den Berg]

Maybe this wil help.

You know the chord sequence G-Em-C-D?
It a very standard progression.
In numbers it is I-VI-IV-V.
So when you hit the A pedal, you've got a
VI chord on that position.
Thus 3rd fret, G -> Em
5th fret, A -> F#m
8th fret, C -> Am
10th fret, D -> Bm

[Bobby Lee]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">quote:</font><HR><SMALL>I know my A&F positions...

I still count up from A/pedal E-minor at the open G to get to other minors. I just can’t seem to memorize those minors for some reason! </SMALL><HR></BLOCKQUOTE> It's the same name. You use A+F at the sixth fret to get a G major. Without the F lever it's a G minor.

If you know the names of your A+F chords, you also know the names of the A pedal minors.

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[Tim Jones of Kansas]

Haha, I probably use the 'church' lick more than you, since it's all I choose to use my two pedals for. I'm stubborn like that! Well, also it works out because I play alot of 'non-pedal' with my pedal steel.

Tim Jones )~Fender 1000 and NOTHING else~(

[Gerald Menke]

Okay, I've just now been playing for six years and I don't know what the "church lick" is. First I ever heard of such a thing. And I had just gotten a grip on this "p-tah" thing, and here you guys go with some more jargon I ain't ever heard of. If someone would please enlighten me on this I'd be most grateful. Maybe someone will tell us about Buddy Charlton's "snake scale".

Good luck and congrats, Matt, just keep at it man!

Gerald Menke
1969 Emmons PP D-10
Fender Super Twin Reverb
10 String Superslide<font size="1" color="#8e236b"><p align="center">[This message was edited by Gerald Menke on 30 January 2006 at 12:54 PM.]</p></FONT>

[Joey Ace]

Matt,
I thinks of Minors as they relate to the Majors.

I described it here: http://steelguitarforum.com/Forum5/HTML/008550.html

There's a lot of good "Minor Advice" in that thread.