Russler steel guitar

Larry Ray Miller · Post by **Larry Ray Miller** » 29 May 2019 5:07 am

I have a Russler Elderado built in 2012 by Russ Hicks, and Randy Weideman. I need to buy the owners manual especially the rodding chart. Thanks for any help. Larry

Fred Justice · Post by **Fred Justice** » 29 May 2019 6:04 am

Larry, I would try to reach Randy if I were you.
I think he'll be about the only one that can help you.
Good luck sir.

Larry Ray Miller · Post by **Larry Ray Miller** » 29 May 2019 8:23 am

I tried to get in touch with Randy, and Russ. I guess they got their money and I am on my own. I like the guitar, but the previous owner moved the pedals around, and got the rodding wrong. I guess I am stuck with the turkey.

Chris Brooks · Post by **Chris Brooks** » 29 May 2019 8:58 am

Larry, why not just take the guitar to a fixer-upper in your area? I notice that you are not far from Knoxville, Johnson City, Asheville, Charlotte . . ..

Chris

Butch Mullen · Post by **Butch Mullen** » 29 May 2019 8:59 am

You ain't stuck with that turkey as long as your on the forum!!! Butch in NC

Larry Ray Miller · Post by **Larry Ray Miller** » 29 May 2019 11:58 am

I have worked on MSA, and Mullen guitars using a Carter chart. This guitar has a double pull on the b pedal string 6. I can guess at the rest. I have the guitar so that I can play it, but it is probally not the factory settings. The previous owner removed the Franklin pedal. I dont have the settings for it. I dont know if it is worth putting back.[/list]

Bobby D. Jones · Post by **Bobby D. Jones** » 29 May 2019 11:51 pm

Put Russler steel guitar into internet search. It will come up, You can go to a owners manual website, They say you can free download a owners manual for Russler Steel Guitar. That may be the easy way to get the a owners manual.

If you don't have a friend that lives next door that does good work on steel guitars, You need to be a mechanic as well as a player.

Good Luck in getting this guitar into good setup and adjustment.

Tony Dingus · Post by **Tony Dingus** » 30 May 2019 6:51 pm

Larry I've got a Russler and used to own the one you have. Russ even signed it for me. Anyway the rodding of both of our guitars should be the same.

Tony

Tony Dingus · Post by **Tony Dingus** » 31 May 2019 4:19 am

I can bring my guitar over and let you make a chart from it. .

Tony

Larry Ray Miller · Post by **Larry Ray Miller** » 1 Jun 2019 2:48 pm

Tony I will try to call you next week. I would drive to wherever you are to make a chart of the E neck. Thank you.

J R Rose · Post by **J R Rose** » 1 Jun 2019 5:52 pm

Hey Larry, I recently traded for A Performance Guitar which is the predecessor of the Russler guitars. Russ and Randy brought the left over stock of the Performance Guitars parts and built the Russler. Both very good guitars. I too need a rodding chart for this one. It is a three up and two down changer. I have some knowledge of rodding but am having trouble getting this to feel like I think it should. I have used Carter, MSA, and LDG Sho-Bud charts to help me get their but so far have not, almost but not quite. I called Randy and when he heard me say something about parts for a Performance he got busy and had to go and said I will call you back, I am still waiting on that call back. If I find anything I will let you know and please do the same for me. I know these are great playing and sounding guitars because I had another one a few years back and it was perfect. Good Luck on your search, J.R. Rose

Tony Dingus · Post by **Tony Dingus** » 1 Jun 2019 7:09 pm

Hey Larry, looking forward to hearing from you.

Tony

Larry Ray Miller · Post by **Larry Ray Miller** » 2 Jun 2019 4:21 pm

J R I also used charts for Carter,and GFI, I am close, but not quite right. I hope to look at Tony's guitar this week, and make a factory chart. I will relay it to you if I can get it.

J R Rose · Post by **J R Rose** » 5 Jun 2019 1:54 pm

Larry, Just by spending time and moving rods a little at a time I think I got this girl fine tuned. I think she plays really good now. A good medium feel on the pedals but a positive feel. Send me a P.M. with your e-mail or if you have picture phone and would rather do that send me you number and I will send you some pictures of what I got. The phone will let you blow up the picture so you can see better. J.R.

Tony Dingus · Post by **Tony Dingus** » 5 Jun 2019 6:58 pm

I'm meeting Larry Monday to help him get his pedals how he wants them. It'll be good to see the old guitar again.

Tony

J R Rose · Post by **J R Rose** » 13 Jun 2019 7:11 pm

Larry, I sent you private e-mail today, J.R.

Jim Palenscar · Post by **Jim Palenscar** » 13 Jun 2019 10:24 pm

Truly rodding a guitar is not rocket science. Play around with one pull and see what happens. Know that the rods in the bellcranks pull more and faster (and the resulting pull is stiffer)the further you get away from the cross shaft and the opposite is true at the changer level - the closer you get to the changer axle the faster/more pull will occur. Start with the big strings and make them as easy as possible and work away from that(ie.- rod the 10th string as close as you can get to the cross shaft and as far as you can from the changer axle for the easiest pull then rod the 5th string so that it starts its pull at the same time- it will have to be faster as it is a thinner string). Also know that it is the size of the core that determines the stretch of the string and the core in wound strings is generally way smaller than the diameter of the string- ie.- about 1/2 the diameter). It is my belief that any player will benefit by knowing how their guitar works and I am more than happy and willing to help anyone with anything I know.

Paul Stauskas · Post by **Paul Stauskas** » 13 Jun 2019 10:30 pm

Thank you Jim for sharing your wisdom!

J R Rose · Post by **J R Rose** » 14 Jun 2019 11:38 am

Jim Palenscar is just full of good Widsom. Plus he is a fine Gentleman. J.R. Rose

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