John Goux
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California, USA
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Posted 24 Apr 2019 3:52 pm |
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As Bruce Bouton says, “I want to see where the thirds are”.
Here are comparison charts between Equal temperament, Just Intonation, and Bob’s Meantone, Buddy Emmons tempered.
The relative difference, in cents, between the root and the major and minor 3rds, the root and the 5ths, is interesting.
I’ve posted my own tuning, a hybrid inspired by keyboard and well tuned guitar tracks, on a very low-cabinet-drop Emmons.
First chart shows the relative difference between Just and ET.
Just...major 3rds at -14, minor thirds at +16, 5ths at +2.
Newman...very close to Just. As per the Peterson E9 preset. I don’t understand the Bs being 2 cents flat of the E. If I read the Just chart correctly, it seems B should be 2 cents sharp of E vs ET.
Buddy Emmons pre-ET...very low C pedal at -22, Major 3rds at -11, minor 3rds at +17, +8.
Bob’s Meantone...5ths at -2.5, major 3rds at -10, minor 3rds at +7.5
(Note, a beat-less 5th is +2, so add some cabinet drop, and the Meantone 5th may be too wobbly for some folks, at -5 or more flat from root)
My Emmons S10... a hybrid. I had the C pedal F# at -5 and it sounds great in open position, and pedals down, melodies and chords. My E, B, D and F# strings are straight ET. G#min and C#min are good(Str 5 rises to -11 with A pedal only.) Str 1/7 both cab drop is -5 in BC, so I get a nice F#minor, but not crazy about my parallel 3rds on higher string sets. My minor 3rds and 5ths are very close to ET. So is my open D chord.
Maybe what my ears miss is a sharper minor third than they are in ET.
I thought it would be nice to have all this information posted in one place, culled from the internet and various intonation discussions on this forum.
Cheers, John
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