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Jerry Touval

 

From:
Great Falls, Virginia, USA
Post  Posted 18 Dec 2005 5:29 pm    
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While I was practicing this evening, the peg that attaches the ball-joint rod to the A pedal sheared off at the base of the A pedal. Seems like it should be relatively easy to reattach it to the pedal since the peg is still entirely intact and just needs to be reattached to the pedal, but I could use advice on what I should use to reattach it. Is there some kind of super epoxy metal-to-metal stuff that would hold through all the use of the pedal, or do I need a more lasting fix than this? Any advice would be welcomed and feel free to call me lame for not knowing off the top of my head how I should reattach the joint.

Thanks.

Jerry
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Paul Norman

 

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Washington, North Carolina, USA
Post  Posted 18 Dec 2005 5:51 pm    
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Your best bet if you can remove the pin in the pedal and if you cant is to take the whole pedal bar to a machine shop. It doesnt sound like a major job for them and they have the right tools. I always jump on something like this and make it worse.
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Jerry Touval

 

From:
Great Falls, Virginia, USA
Post  Posted 18 Dec 2005 6:01 pm    
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Paul

Thanks for the reply. The pin is still attached to the ball joint, which is why I was thinking I might just be able to epoxy the whole assembly (pin + ball joint)back into the socket on the pedal itself. I’m not sure there is an epoxy that can withstand the pressure of constant use of the A pedal though. My worst case scenario isn’t all that bad – I’d just have to take a 2-hour drive down to Billy Cooper’s Steel Guitar shop down in Orange VA sometime this week assuming Billy has time to fix it. Since I was just down at Billy’s yesterday, I’m trying to find a way to avoid making the long drive twice in one week.

Jerry
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John Fabian


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Mesquite, Texas USA * R.I.P.
Post  Posted 19 Dec 2005 3:37 am    
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I don't know of any substance that will hold the ball in a pedal.

When replacing the ball, make sure it is seated all thje way down against the pedal or it will break. I have never been successful at removing the broken end of the stud from a pedal.

if you don't want to drive to Billy Coopers you could call the manufacturer and have them send you a new pedal. Or call Billy or Bobbe and see if they have one. In the mean time, if you have a D-10, you could take off the pedal 4 (C6 raises A's to B) and put it on your A pedal postion.

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Jerry Roller


From:
Van Buren, Arkansas USA
Post  Posted 19 Dec 2005 8:41 am    
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I am very curious to get a grasp on what the problem is. Did the ball break off leaving the threaded part in the pedal or did the whole thing pull out leaving a hole in the pedal where threads used to be? That seems so unlikely unless the threads were already stripped out. Can you tell us in detail what happened? If the threaded part is left in the pedal and is broken off flush with the pedal a good welding shop can lay a nut on the shaft and quickly with a small electric welder weld the nut to the broken shaft and you can just unscrew it. I would think we can help you solve the problem if we are sure exactly what the problem is. A photo would be so nice.
Jerry
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Farris Currie

 

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Ona, Florida, USA, R.I.P.
Post  Posted 19 Dec 2005 9:05 am    
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VERY FUNNY, not meaning to be mean,but the ball is made of steel,and the pedal is usually alum. I would center punch the back side of the threaded shaft, and drill it right in the center.usually with a small left handed drill,and screw it out. ready to replace with a new one. be careful not to get in the threads. I have welded up the hole,and retapped new threads before.also move a little one way or the other,and redrill and tap a new hole.they are usually like a 8 or 10/32 tap size.
farris
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Jerry Touval

 

From:
Great Falls, Virginia, USA
Post  Posted 19 Dec 2005 9:57 am    
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Thanks to all for your messages. Situation resolved.

After posting my question last night, I got a call from a member of the Forum who works within walking distance form my house and fixes steel guitars. I just dropped the pedal board off at his place of employment and he is going to repair it. I am amazed at the reach of this Forum and how rapidly and effectively I got responses. Wow!

Jerry
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Jerry Roller


From:
Van Buren, Arkansas USA
Post  Posted 19 Dec 2005 1:20 pm    
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Farris, I was not meaning to be funny. My Dad was in the auto repair business and I ran a auto body shop for many years and this was common practice for removing a bolt which had been twisted off. The fact that it is steel stud threaded into an aluminum pedal is the reason this method works so well. The weld will not stick the aluminum to the steel. I will never try to be funny when I am trying to help someone solve a problem.
Jerry

[This message was edited by Jerry Roller on 21 December 2005 at 09:53 PM.]

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