Steel King amps?
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Steel King amps?
I apologize in advance. I s#%k at searches. I'm looking for the general opinion on the Fender Steel King amps as far as power, tone, and reliability goes. I'm a new pedal steeler playing in a Rockabilly/Honky Tonk inspired band that at times can get a little on the loud side. I realized at practice this past weekend that my Custom Vibrolux Reverb is just not going to stay clean enough for me to play steel through it. So, this week I've been searching for a suitable amp. A local store has a Steel King that they are asking $499. A quick look at Ebay only shows 2 Steel Kings and both are in that price range. What do you all think? Is the Steel King going to be a suitable amp for me?
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I like the steel king also. you will definitely notice that it is not a tube amp however. I like to use a sarno black box with mine, it seems to give it a little more warmth and dimension. I currently have a neo speaker in mine. the stock speaker sounded a bit fuller but the weight is a big issue. I also use an external reverb pedal with my steel king as I am not crazy about the onboard amp reverb.
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The Steel King amp is both greatly loved and abhorred. I like mine a lot. I would rate it third behind the Walker Stereo Steel and the Webb 6-14-E. I did try a black Widow speaker in it but went back to the stock speaker. The amp reverb is nothing like a Fender tube reverb so I use either an outboard RV-5 or Hall Of Fame for that. Some people have cited that the amp is not overly reliable long term and that if you crank the bass very high, you lose a lot of definition and the amp bottoms out.
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I have 2 of those babys. One with stock speaker, the other with the emeninse 15c, I think thats the correct part #. The stock speaker has move warmth, more mids, and you can dial in just about anything you like. On the other hand, the other has not got the range of sound, its great for glass breaking highs, but lacks the warmth of the original. I am playing a Fessie through mine.
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I have a Steel King head that I like a lot. Through a Black Widow, it has a smoother bass and more string definition than my Webb. I sit in a with a band sometimes that comes as close to ear-bleeding volume levels as I'll ever care to tolerate and the Steel King comes closer to keeping up than anything else I've tried so far.
Although there are some higher freqs that I have some difficulty taming the shrill out of, I do like the Steel King too. It was designed and tuned to have a big, easy to find sweet spot and I really like the control panel with its mid freq sweep and its tilt control.
I've tried several speakers in it (BW, an older Emi neo...Kappa?, an Eclipse) I returned the OEM speaker and I find it to be the best match.
I haven't driven it hard in a long time and I can't speak for how it handles high power situations.
I've tried several speakers in it (BW, an older Emi neo...Kappa?, an Eclipse) I returned the OEM speaker and I find it to be the best match.
I haven't driven it hard in a long time and I can't speak for how it handles high power situations.
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Stephen...sorry to get slightly off-topic, but for $499 why not save your back and buy a Gallien Kruger MB200 and the 15" neo speaker of your choice. You could even throw it in a Fender Cabinet for that vintage look. I love the sound of this combo especially with Sarno's Black Box in front.
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I've got one of the original SteelKings as I bought the Jazzking before the SteelKing was out and traded up when they became available. Great amp w/ lotsa features great DI out etc but for some, reliability has been an issue. Mine has everything original including he wrapped foot switch and speaker & never a problem with it.
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I just wondered about putting a 4 ohm 12 inch Black Widow I have into my FSK, the baffle board is no problem to make, would this work ok in a FSK?
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The one I had way to many high's even with the Treble turned off. Others I have heard were OK, maybe just this amp.
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Seems most here liked it. I had mine for a little over a year and just finally gave up on it. To me it had a thumpy compressed sound. I did not like the mids or the shrill highs.Out of all the amps I've ever owned,I could not find the sweet spot no matter how I set it.
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Same here. Except I also didn't like the farty lows.Dick Wood wrote:Seems most here liked it. I had mine for a little over a year and just finally gave up on it. To me it had a thumpy compressed sound. I did not like the mids or the shrill highs.Out of all the amps I've ever owned,I could not find the sweet spot no matter how I set it.
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Bought a new FSK when they became available. At the time, I was playing Carter guitars and was using a U-12. Speaker went the first night. I talked with Bobbe Seymour and asked which speaker to use. He said put a Peavey BW, 15" in it. I did and it sounded like a completely different amp and had no more problems with it. Bought a used one later and went ahead and replaced the speaker with a BW. No issues. Since then I've always kept at least one Peavey steel amp. Even now, I've got a NV-400 w/ Ken Fox mod. My main amp is a Tommy Huff built.
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I read somewhere that the Steel King doesn't do well with single coil pickups with hum etc- can anybody confirm or deny this claim? My main guitar is an old Sho~Bud with original single coils, so the claim spooked me from buying one of these amps.
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Hey Steve..can't believe no-one has not suggested taking that $500 dollars and look for a peavey session400..Nashville400 or Vegas400 with 200+ watts..they are steel amps and will keep up with the band or maybe a Nashville 112 and save your back plus put a hundred-fifty smacks back in your billfold!! Plenty for sale on here
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I had a Peavey LA 400. About 200 watts into 12 in. Black Widow, with channel switching, reverb, pre and post gain adjust, effects in and out.
With a Black Box in front, it had plenty of sound, clean or hairy. And they are cheap , if you can find one. I paid around $200- $250. plus a used Black Box.
With a Black Box in front, it had plenty of sound, clean or hairy. And they are cheap , if you can find one. I paid around $200- $250. plus a used Black Box.
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I bought a new one and like already noted, it was pretty bright. There was a rumor going around that Fender had an Evans that they were using as a model to emulate the sound. If that is true, it would explain the brightness. Mine had a reliability problem. Had to be repaired twice in the first year. After it was repaired the 2nd time and was good to go, I sold it and then it deve!oped a hum on the 2nd owner. I am with others, put your money somewhere else. If it were me, I would get a Katana 100. Ron Hogan has a video demo of it on the forum. I have the 100 head only version and like it a lot. About half what you are looking at paying for the SK.
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A note on the reliability issue. Local player purchased one when they were first introduced, spent more time in the shop than on the stage! Had it repaired a number of times and it was finally sold. Would think by now that any issues with this particular unit would have been addressed but on the other hand, chronic unreliability may be the very reason that this amp is for sale. Agree with Derrick, for around the same price (or less) a Peavey Nashville or Session series is a far better alternative (JMO).