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I've had this since September - I think I may have posted it on a thread about keyless guitars, but here it is now on this one. It's 7x5 B6/E9 uni.
I've had to change a couple of things. Bill hadn't allowed for the Day setup and positioned the left knee levers too far to the left (I sit quite far to the right as well) but it was no big deal to move them.
Non-uni players skip this next bit!
It's only a 3up/3down changer and I need 4 raises on string 9:-
A pedal to C#
D lever to D
P8 to B#
CKV to B# (as well as lowering 5 to A#)
To get the 4th raise, he had bridged over to the first lower hole to deliver it as a split tuning. Unfortunately, to keep the rodding neat he chose the A pedal raise to do this, which meant that I could not then raise 5 to C# and 9 to D at the same time to get the 13th chord I'm used to. So I rerodded it to put the split on P8 where it causes no trouble - not as neat, but who's going to see?
None of this is intended as a criticism of Bill Rudolph, who has created yet another beautiful guitar with engineering quality to match.
I've had to change a couple of things. Bill hadn't allowed for the Day setup and positioned the left knee levers too far to the left (I sit quite far to the right as well) but it was no big deal to move them.
Non-uni players skip this next bit!
It's only a 3up/3down changer and I need 4 raises on string 9:-
A pedal to C#
D lever to D
P8 to B#
CKV to B# (as well as lowering 5 to A#)
To get the 4th raise, he had bridged over to the first lower hole to deliver it as a split tuning. Unfortunately, to keep the rodding neat he chose the A pedal raise to do this, which meant that I could not then raise 5 to C# and 9 to D at the same time to get the 13th chord I'm used to. So I rerodded it to put the split on P8 where it causes no trouble - not as neat, but who's going to see?
None of this is intended as a criticism of Bill Rudolph, who has created yet another beautiful guitar with engineering quality to match.
Make sleeping dogs tell the truth!
Homebuilt keyless U12 7x5, Excel keyless U12 8x8, Williams keyless U12 7x8, Telonics rack and 15" cabs
Homebuilt keyless U12 7x5, Excel keyless U12 8x8, Williams keyless U12 7x8, Telonics rack and 15" cabs
- Mike Selecky
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I've got a Williams double wide E9/B6 8+8 Uni on order. No due date just yet but....soon?
I will need to 'cobble' an extra change too -- My setup wants 4 lowers on string 8. I have achieved this on another guitar by using the basic idea of the 'infinite changes' of a rack & barrel Bud. It is a 'want' change, not a 'need' change so I will figure it out once I get the guitar. Maybe I'll go with a lower/raise finger adapter gizmo instead.
I will need to 'cobble' an extra change too -- My setup wants 4 lowers on string 8. I have achieved this on another guitar by using the basic idea of the 'infinite changes' of a rack & barrel Bud. It is a 'want' change, not a 'need' change so I will figure it out once I get the guitar. Maybe I'll go with a lower/raise finger adapter gizmo instead.
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- Stu Schulman
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Really nice to see people playing Bill Rudolph's Gems.
These guitars are great!!
These guitars are great!!
Steeltronics Z-pickup,Desert Rose S-10 4+5,Desert Rose Keyless S-10 3+5... Mullen G2 S-10 3+5,Telonics 206 pickups,Telonics volume pedal.,Blanton SD -10,Emmons GS_10...Zirctone bar,Bill Groner Bar...any amp that isn't broken.Steel Seat.Com seats...Licking paint chips off of Chinese Toys since 1952.
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Williams
Truly beautiful great guitars I own a 700 series S10, did have issues with the clear coat, just peeling away. But with that still possibly considering purchasing another Willy. Mine also does not have gauged rollers, but the website states gauged rollers as standard.
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Thanks Dan, We're working on the 3rd RCX album now, due to be released around 5/1/20. I've used both on recordings, same tuning and copedent. They're wonderful playing guitars, and lookers too!!
2016 Williams D12 8 x 8, 2015 Williams D12 8 x 8, 2023 Williams S12 4 x 5, Milkman Amps, 1974 Gibson Byrdland
- Nick Waugh
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One more Williams
My first D10. Bill had this one in stock ready to ship, built it for a steel show that got cancelled during the lockdown. I called at the right time. Williams guitars are great.
(Note: When I asked Bill why there was no "700 Series" designation on the guitar, he said it's beyond 700, and they have stopped putting series numbers on their guitars.)
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- Larry Ball
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What does that steel weigh case and all?Larry Ball wrote:My SD12 Extended E9
Rejoice in the Lord, O ye righteous; praise is meet for the upright. Give praise to the Lord with the harp, chant unto Him with the ten-stringed psaltery. Sing unto Him a new song, chant well unto Him with jubilation. For the word of the Lord is true, and all His works are in faithfulness. The Lord loveth mercy and judgement; the earth is full of the mercy of the Lord.
- Psalm 33:1-5
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- Larry Ball
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Truly I have never really weighted it. However fully assembled it is much lighter than my “Mullen†SD10, this is mainly because of the light weight legs. It is also about 1†shorter in length because of the keyless head.
I believe Greg Cutshaw (forum member) stated his exact guitar weighted 26.9 # and 31.6 # with case.
I have split cases with makes it feel like a feather and for an old guy with a bad back it is a relief.
I believe Greg Cutshaw (forum member) stated his exact guitar weighted 26.9 # and 31.6 # with case.
I have split cases with makes it feel like a feather and for an old guy with a bad back it is a relief.
Mullen SD10, Sho~Bud SD10 LDG, Show-Pro SD10 LDG, Peavey Nashville 112, Telonic's F100 Multi-Taper Super Pro V/P, too many other guitars, amps and effects to mention.
2023 Williams SD12
Here she is, 21 months later. Bless Bill Rudolph and company, she is fantastic.
I think she's still in the break in period, this is my first new-new guitar. She's got the Rick Schmidt Ext E9 set up with some extras, thanks Rick for the cool ideas.
I'll be honest, I'm feeling a bit discouraged after waiting almost 2 years and spending so much. Not because of Williams (it's literally exactly what I ordered and much more) but by the 2 extra strings. Anyone have any similar antidotes? She's gorgeous and the boys at Williams absolutely nailed it, just curious of how others switched from 10 strings to 12.
I think she's still in the break in period, this is my first new-new guitar. She's got the Rick Schmidt Ext E9 set up with some extras, thanks Rick for the cool ideas.
I'll be honest, I'm feeling a bit discouraged after waiting almost 2 years and spending so much. Not because of Williams (it's literally exactly what I ordered and much more) but by the 2 extra strings. Anyone have any similar antidotes? She's gorgeous and the boys at Williams absolutely nailed it, just curious of how others switched from 10 strings to 12.
Williams D10 600 9x9, Quilter Cub, Helix FX
Steel Newbie.
Over 20 years playing drums and guitar.
Steel Newbie.
Over 20 years playing drums and guitar.
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Funny you should ask. This just arrived today and I've been playing it since it arrived. This one is used, but another friend just got his williams today as well. It is a day of Williams.
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