A John Scofield-inspired take on Oleo
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A John Scofield-inspired take on Oleo
I call it Scoleo. A Sonny Rollins tune, Oleo, which is based on I Got Rhythm. In order to play jazz, you have to master the blues and rhythm changes. I have a long way to go.
I’m incorporating some new techniques I’ve been working on. New solutions to old problems. Most important for me is playing the way I hear it in my head.
https://soundcloud.com/user-570354922/s ... -mike-neer
I’m incorporating some new techniques I’ve been working on. New solutions to old problems. Most important for me is playing the way I hear it in my head.
https://soundcloud.com/user-570354922/s ... -mike-neer
- R. E. Miller
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The modulation is pitch detuning. I was strongly influenced by jazz guitar in the 80s (Scofield, Stern, Frisell, Metheny) and I unapologetically love modulation.
When I started listening to Buddy Emmons playing jazz tunes (way before I ever considered playing steel), I found his picking patterns really interesting and I wanted to explore that for guitar. However, fast forward 30 years and I am much more interested in playing steel and playing my steel like I did guitar.
On a tune like this, really uptempo, it’s hard to put together long, interesting lines just using a lap steel. I’ve made a lot of adjustments in technique and thinking (harmonically) to make it work. The tendency is to want to make all the changes, but even the greats sort of summarize the changes and emphasize or redirect it.
Anyway, lap steel playing keeps me out of trouble.
When I started listening to Buddy Emmons playing jazz tunes (way before I ever considered playing steel), I found his picking patterns really interesting and I wanted to explore that for guitar. However, fast forward 30 years and I am much more interested in playing steel and playing my steel like I did guitar.
On a tune like this, really uptempo, it’s hard to put together long, interesting lines just using a lap steel. I’ve made a lot of adjustments in technique and thinking (harmonically) to make it work. The tendency is to want to make all the changes, but even the greats sort of summarize the changes and emphasize or redirect it.
Anyway, lap steel playing keeps me out of trouble.
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Wild. Definitely has that "Still Warm" Scofield pitch twist thing happening (Without the nasty ProCo bark). Not your everyday CE-2 sound, though. I'm more on the dry, angular side of things like McLaughlin era Miles, but I must admit I had a certain fascination with Stern's "Upside Downside." On the melodic front, I feel your pain. The intervallic aspect of the steel (pedals or not) seems to be the ever present tension, especially in this neighborhood. The desire for ever widening chord voicings at odds with denser melodic lines. I suppose that's a good thing as long as the challenge drives you to the woodshed. I really dig where you're headed with it.
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I took some guitar lessons with Mike while he was making Upside Downside.R. E. Miller wrote:Wild. Definitely has that "Still Warm" Scofield pitch twist thing happening (Without the nasty ProCo bark). Not your everyday CE-2 sound, though. I'm more on the dry, angular side of things like McLaughlin era Miles, but I must admit I had a certain fascination with Stern's "Upside Downside." On the melodic front, I feel your pain. The intervallic aspect of the steel (pedals or not) seems to be the ever present tension, especially in this neighborhood. The desire for ever widening chord voicings at odds with denser melodic lines. I suppose that's a good thing as long as the challenge drives you to the woodshed. I really dig where your headed with it.
I like a clean sound too, of course, but for this I was thinking Electric Outlet.
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Nice Mike.
you inspired me to work on the melody and see how it lays out on the eharp neck . The hardest part for me is getting the rhythm right. It has all those notes on the upbeat, and eighth note rests. Haven't quite got it yet. the tune lays out well on the eharp, most melody notes on one fret.
you inspired me to work on the melody and see how it lays out on the eharp neck . The hardest part for me is getting the rhythm right. It has all those notes on the upbeat, and eighth note rests. Haven't quite got it yet. the tune lays out well on the eharp, most melody notes on one fret.
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