Best method to create SG tab and how to post it on the SGF?

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Best method to create SG tab and how to post it on the SGF?

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I want to make some C6 steel tab to post in the SGF tab section. I need to know what's the best free program to do this with and what process is currently being used here on the forum to post tab. I looked in the search area but didn't find what I was looking for. It looked like everyone was using a URL address to post a pic in the tab section?...Thanks
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I have done them in excel (or LibreOffice Calc) and take a screenshot of them.

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Anyone had any luck yet with the new free Musecore 2.1 yet? It can do notation and tab together at the same time. How are you guys posting your tab nowadays here on the SGF tab section?

Scott, thanks for the effort, but Excel is too challenging for me to read easily.
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I've used Guitar Pro for years. It is inexpensive and easy to learn. It'll do both tab and notation at the same time. However, if you write in notation, the tab will be musically correct but not in the positions where you'd normally play them so you'll need to edit the tab.
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Post by Larry Carlson »

I use Guitar Pro and I set it up in the preferences to display tab only.
It prints out and looks just like the tab you get from Troy.
Then just post that on the site as you normally would.
I have stuff.
I try to make music with it.
Sometimes it works.
Sometimes it doesn't.
But I keep on trying.
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You can do it in Notepad (Windows) or Textedit (Mac) using a monospace font. Then copy/paste into a forum post between the [tab] and [/tab] BBCodes.

See https://bb.steelguitarforum.com/faq.php?mode=bbcode#5
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Here's an example of the plain text method. It's for pedal steel, but the same technique works for lap steel tab and for tuning charts.
[tab]Night Life intro in C:


C Eb9 Abmaj7 G7
1)___________________________________________
2)___________________________________________
3)___________________________________________
4)_____________________________________6~4_3_
5)__5~6~7~8____________________6_6A__________
6)________8______8~8B_11_____6B____________3_
7)____________________11_________6___________
8)________8___________11_____________________
9)____________________11_________6_________3_
10)__________________________________________

1)___________________________________________
2)___________________________________________
3)___________________________________________
4)___________________________________________
5)____8__________________6A_______8__________
6)____8________11_________________8B______8__
7)_____________11________6___________________
8)____8________11_________________8E______8__
9)_____________11________6___________________
10)_______________________________________8__

C Eb9 Abmaj7 G7 C
[/tab]
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Bob, the old forum section used to be able to use something called "tab edit" if I remember correctly. It was very basic but easy to use and then you would post it using the [Tab] markers that you explained above. Does that still work, I don't see anyone using it on the new tab section?

Also, I'm thinking I might need my own URL hosting to post tab made on something like "Guitar Pro" software. Would that be correct? I want to post full songs with Musescore 2.1 if possible, because it is free, looks great and has a lot of support. It does tab and notation very well from the looks of it and seems like a great way to get back into practicing lap steel again. Thanks...
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Jesse Pearson wrote:Bob, the old forum section used to be able to use something called "tab edit" if I remember correctly. It was very basic but easy to use and then you would post it using the [Tab] markers that you explained above. Does that still work, I don't see anyone using it on the new tab section?

Also, I'm thinking I might need my own URL hosting to post tab made on something like "Guitar Pro" software. Would that be correct? I want to post full songs with Musescore 2.1 if possible, because it is free, looks great and has a lot of support. It does tab and notation very well from the looks of it and seems like a great way to get back into practicing lap steel again. Thanks...
I've never tried any other method. Sorry I can't be more help.
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I created this with Guitar Pro ver 6. Then did a screen capture by pressing the Prnt Scn key. Then dragged the mouse around the part to be copied and saved it as a png file using Windows 7. On the forum I uploaded the file.

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Post by Jesse Pearson »

Thanks for the reply Bob.

Robert, that looks pretty good. I just looked up what a PNG file is, so I'll try and post with a PNG file if I can save a Musescore file as one. I guess your using the process that Bob posted up above from the SGF FAQ, so the URL/host question I had is just for posting pictures and not tab files, if I'm starting to understand the process correctly? I'm beginning to figure out the free Musescore Tab/notation software and hopefully I can post a song using it before too long. Thanks for the help...
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Tabledit does still exist. You can find it here
https://www.tabledit.com/
It's been around since 1987 and still sees regular updates. The latest version is v2.78

Doug Beaumier's books are all published with it. At least, they were the last time I asked him.

Tabledit does a great job, but it's been surpassed by GuitarPro. The GuitarPro interface is more "mouse friendly" than Tabledit and you could argue that it has more features.

But, once you're used to it, you can go very fast with Tabledit.


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Jesse Pearson wrote:Thanks for the reply Bob.

Robert, that looks pretty good. I just looked up what a PNG file is, so I'll try and post with a PNG file if I can save a Musescore file as one. I guess your using the process that Bob posted up above from the SGF FAQ, so the URL/host question I had is just for posting pictures and not tab files, if I'm starting to understand the process correctly? I'm beginning to figure out the free Musescore Tab/notation software and hopefully I can post a song using it before too long. Thanks for the help...
Like JPG, a PNG file is a picture. Use the "Upload picture" button to post it. You don't need to host it elsewhere.
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Perfect, thanks guys.
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Or, if everything else fails, you can always do it the old fashioned way:

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Reminds me of Jerry Byrd method. You can't go wrong Erv. 8)
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Thanks, Roy!
You can't beat Jerry Byrd. :D
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I see it, Erv, but I have no clue how you made it. Enlighten us, please.
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Post by Michael Hegedus »

For Guitar Pro users what tuning(s) do you use? When I select a C6 tuning GP gives me CGCGAE reading from low to high notes. What I would like to use is CEGACE. Is there a trick to getting the latter tuning? I use GP version 7.5.



I have had success in finding CEGACE in TablEdit.



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Post by Ed Baker »

That's always been a little obscure in GuitarPro.
Here's what you do.
Go to the track menu for your instrument.
Click on the gear symbol next to "Tuning"
and you'll see the pop up.

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I use Guitar Pro 7 and for the Forum, output to PNG,then post each page of the tab.

You can customize the tuning easily and save it as a pre-set. See 1 & 2 below .....

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b0b,
I do it all by hand, no program involved.
The only thing I use is located between my ears. :D
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I just use Excel, one of the most powerful format programs there is. Actually I use the free OpenOffice version of Excel which looks pretty much identical to Excel.


http://www.gregcutshaw.com/The%20Christ ... %20Tab.pdf


I create the tab in Open Office, use the free CutePDF writer to convert it to a pdf, then free program PDF-Viewer to convert the pdf to a jpg file if needed:

http://www.gregcutshaw.com/The%20Christ ... 20Tab1.jpg



It's easier than it sounds and once you've done a few tabs you can use them as source for new tabs, changing only what needs changed in the new tab.
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Erv Niehaus wrote:b0b,
I do it all by hand, no program involved.
The only thing I use is located between my ears. :D
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The notes on the staff aren't by hand, and neither is the tab grid. That's why I asked.

Greg, could you share your OpenOffice template?
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b0b,
Cut and tape, cut and tape. :D
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