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Topic: Pass the Booze E.T. 1964 Emmons or Charleton? |
Jerry Overstreet
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Louisville Ky
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Mitch Drumm
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Frostbite Falls, hard by Veronica Lake
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Posted 17 May 2018 11:13 am |
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| I think Charleton on the original 1964 cut, but I have not cross-checked to confirm that your link is to that version. |
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Greg Cutshaw
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Corry, PA, USA
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Jerry Overstreet
From:
Louisville Ky
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Posted 17 May 2018 3:03 pm
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| I was curious if anyone could tell just by listening. I didn't research their eras of work nor the credits online. I guessed Emmons. |
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Bobby Boggs
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Upstate SC.
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Posted 17 May 2018 3:46 pm
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| I knew it was Charlton from the start. Charlton's execution, phrasing, and note choices never sounded like Emmons to me. To my ears, Charlton was heavily influenced by both Day and Emmons. But sounded more like Day than Emmons. Particularly on medium and up tempo tunes. After a short time, I felt he kinda found his own ground. And sounded like Buddy Charlton. Your mileage may vary. |
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Donny Hinson
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Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 17 May 2018 3:46 pm
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| Charleton's sweet Sho-Bud tone, all the way! |
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Jerry Overstreet
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Louisville Ky
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Posted 17 May 2018 4:06 pm
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Thanks fellas. I'm almost embarrassed to say I was never all that familiar with Charleton's style and sound. It was only in later years that I became aware of all his contribution to the music.
I just have to plead ignorance in this case, but I'm obviously uneducated to BC's style and tone and honestly just did not know. I do know that Emmon's sound changed quite a bit over the years and I could probably never i.d. him in the early years of music. |
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Dave Campbell
From:
Nova Scotia, Canada
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john buffington
From:
Owasso OK - USA
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Posted 17 May 2018 7:55 pm
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| Listening to Buddy Charleton's playing, it seems he had a certain amount of "bounce" or kick to his playing. His tone is consistent on either brand of guitars Sho-Bud or Emmons IMO! For my ears, his style defined the ET sound better than any of the other great steel players he had. Just my opinion. Like John Hughey made the Conway Twitty sound. |
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b0b
From:
Cloverdale, CA, USA
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W. C. Edgar
From:
Iowa City Iowa, Madison CT, Nashville, Austin, Phoenix, Nashville
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Posted 18 May 2018 7:51 am
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Yeah I can tell from just listening
Charlton
Ernest Tubb was the sole reason I got into what I do and I've been immersed in his sound since the beginning.....
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Ray Minich
From:
Bradford, Pa. Frozen Tundra
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Posted 18 May 2018 8:43 am
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One of my favorite E.T. tunes...
Practice to it, but I'll not be able to reproduce it from my fingers in this lifetime...
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Jim Smith
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Midlothian, TX, USA
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Posted 18 May 2018 12:04 pm
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| Very unique sound on the solo. EchoPlex? |
I don't hear any echo, just a lot of reverb. |
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Bob Knight
From:
Bowling Green KY
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Posted 18 May 2018 12:54 pm Amp reverb
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Buddy only used amp reverb in those days,Sho~Bud Amp.
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Clyde Mattocks
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Kinston, North Carolina, USA
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Posted 18 May 2018 7:23 pm
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During this period, some players were using two amps, one completly dry and the other very wet. sounds to me on this record, they forgot to mix in the dry one.
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Joerg Hennig
From:
Bavaria, Germany
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Posted 19 May 2018 8:32 am
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If you want to get familiar with Buddy Charleton's style, some other tunes that are great examples of his E9 playing are:
The Way That You're Living Is Breaking My Heart
Drivin' Nails In My Coffin
Lonesome 7-7203
Mr. Juke Box
Your Side Of The Story
Just Call me Lonesome
Be Better To Your Baby
Beyond The Last Mile
There's a lot more of course, not to forget all the C6 stuff that is absolutely brilliant. Also worth checking out are the duets of Ernest Tubb and Loretta Lynn, most of those are loaded with Buddy's steel. |
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Brendan Mitchell
From:
Melbourne Australia
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Posted 19 May 2018 6:07 pm
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| I have trouble with YouTube clips telling these two apart ! |
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Jerry Overstreet
From:
Louisville Ky
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Posted 20 May 2018 7:17 am
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| To further display my ignorance and slightly aside, I'm thinking it's the late, great Leon Rhodes in this video doing those iconic licks so associated with E.T.'s music, but wasn't Billy Byrd the guitar player that created those signature runs? Butterball was slightly before my time, but I don't think he was the one that did that. |
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Brian Gattis
From:
Georgia, USA
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Posted 20 May 2018 8:24 am
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| Yep its Leon Rhodes |
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Glenn Suchan
From:
Austin, Texas
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Posted 22 May 2018 8:31 am
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Just for comparison of tone and style, here's a live recording of ET doing "Drivin' Nails in my Coffin" with Leon and the Big E. ( I love it at 2:11 when ET says, "I Think Shot Jackson is looking' for ya"  ):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnEMOQTh27s
Keep on pickin'!
Glenn
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Joerg Hennig
From:
Bavaria, Germany
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Posted 22 May 2018 11:11 am
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| This is just my personal opinion, but with all respect to Buddy E., I think in those days sometimes he would try to "show off" just a little too much, whereas Buddy C.'s playing would just fit in perfectly within the overall Texas Troubadours' sound, even if it may have been technically simpler sometimes. To me, Buddy C. will always be THE Texas Troubadours steel player, especially together with Leon Rhodes, those two were like a match made in heaven. |
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Gary Hoetker
From:
California, USA
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Posted 23 May 2018 7:31 pm
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| Well said. Couldn't agree with you more. |
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