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Cody Stewart

 

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Traverse City Michigan, USA
Post  Posted 24 Apr 2018 6:07 am    
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Hello Everyone,

I currently have a late model Sho~Bud LDG with the super pro changer. My LKR currently raises my 1st string a whole tone to G# and my 7th string a half tone to G. I'm considering adding a raise to the second string off of the same lever to raise is a half tone from D# to E. Do a lot of you guys run this? was wondering if there is a good advantage to it?

I greatly appreciate any and all insight and advice

Respectfully,
Cody Stewart
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Bobby Hearn

 

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Henrietta, Tx
Post  Posted 24 Apr 2018 6:32 am    
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I have that change and really like it for some cool unison stuff with string 4 without having to slant bar, and it also sounds good played with string 1.
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Greg Cutshaw


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Corry, PA, USA
Post  Posted 24 Apr 2018 6:48 am    
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I use that change a lot. Here's my last D-10 copedant and some sound files and tabs for it:

http://www.gregcutshaw.com/Tab/E9%201st%202nd%20%207th%20String%20Raise%20Tab.html


The above includes a lot of the 7th string raise to G# as well.


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Kyle Everson

 

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Nashville, Tennessee
Post  Posted 24 Apr 2018 7:31 am    
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Consider bringing the 7th string up to F# as well. The 1,2,7 raises work as a team for major7 licks and completing the harmonized scale, among other functions (such as a passing 6 tone in the E lowers position). You can always "half-pedal" it for the G raise.
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John Swain


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Winchester, Va
Post  Posted 24 Apr 2018 9:14 am    
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A nice change to have, and by timing 2nd string to start late you have a usable half stop for the G on 1+7. It's also neat that very often you can just add another pull rod to the same bell crank that pulls string1!
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Greg Gefell


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Upstate NY
Post  Posted 25 Apr 2018 4:57 am    
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+1 to what Kyle said! I recently moved my 1,2,7 raises to LKV and it works well alone or with AB + BC combos. I also find it easier to come up to the G half step with it on the vertical. I could never do that on RKL where I had it before.
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John Goux

 

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California, USA
Post  Posted 25 Apr 2018 10:37 pm    
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Greg, you find it easier to hit the half stop on the vertical than LKL?
I would think it’s easier to do on a knee. I am curious if this half stop works on a vertical.

I use this change often, the 1/2/7 raise. Having the E on string 2 gives you 4 half steps when combined with the Str 2 lowers.
It is not just a lick change. Having those notes on string 2 is an effective melody and counterpoint tool.
John
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Greg Gefell


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Upstate NY
Post  Posted 26 Apr 2018 4:03 am    
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I don’t have the half stop bump from 2 engaging. Mine are timed so all 3 notes start and stop smoothly together which sounds better when using the whole step raises on 1 and 7. I just find that with my AB down and lifting my heel, I can get a more controllable leverage to ease into that G note 7th when needed. If I needed to consistently hit G without the squeeze up from F#, I would need a half stop. I lower both G# to G on another lever for that use.
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Cody Stewart

 

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Traverse City Michigan, USA
Post  Posted 26 Apr 2018 9:42 am    
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Everyone,

I greatly appreciate all the insight. There is much to consider. However, after examining my undercarriage, I've discovered that the bracket holding my half-stop assembly for lowering the second string is directly in the way of adding a pull rod to raise it... Just to be clear, I want to add my second string raise to the lKR, I lower the second string on my RKR. This a factory Sho~Bud set-up. Have any of you other sho~bud guys run into this exact issue? Is there an easy solution?

Thanks,
Cody Stewart
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