| Does mica effect resonance |
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Topic: Resonance |
Art Beard
From:
Once upon a time out west (deceased)
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Posted 18 Feb 2018 7:28 am |
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Is there a way to measure the resonance of a steel?? I believe that mica stiffles the true resonance of steel guitars, Please answer the survey below , so I can see if there are those of you that think or feel the same. So far all of my steels have been lacquer . Thanks CAA
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"like an old stallion, lonely for freedom, still trying to out run the wind" Seals,Setser,& Davey.
GAS -1969 ZB D11/10,1974 Sho-Bud D10 Professional,1975 Speedy West S10, 150 yr okd Barn Board tele, Beard signature Gold Tone Dean Acoustic/Electric Bass, Tennessee 12 string Bass, 3 String Shovel.2 Fiddles., Sho-Bud amp, Epiphone valve special amp, Fishman loudbox artist amp. |
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Patrick Huey
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Nacogdoches, Texas, USA
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Posted 18 Feb 2018 7:33 am
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I don’t know how much it affects resonance but I’d say it’s part of the overall equation.
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Pre RP Mullen D10 8/7, Zum 3/4, Carter S-10 3/4, previous Cougar SD-10 3/4 & GFI S-10 3/4, Fender Steel King, 2 Peavey Session 500's, Peavey Nashville 400, Boss DD-3, Profex-II, Hilton Digital Sustain, '88 Les Paul Custom,Epiphone MBIBG J-45, Fender Strat & Tele's, Takamine acoustics, Marshall amps, Boss effects, Ibanez Tube Screamer, and it all started with an old cranky worn out Kay acoustic you could slide a Mack truck between the strings and fretboard on!! |
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Rick Abbott
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Indiana, USA
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Posted 18 Feb 2018 10:59 am
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How are you defining "resonance?" What is it, or what attribute of the instrument does it define?
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RICK ABBOTT
Sho~Bud D-10 Professional #7962
Remington T-8, Sehy #112
1975 Peavey Pacer 1963 Gibson Falcon |
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Ken Pippus
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Langford, BC, Canada
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Posted 18 Feb 2018 11:31 am
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| Yes, if you mean affect, not effect. Otherwise, no. |
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Art Beard
From:
Once upon a time out west (deceased)
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Posted 18 Feb 2018 2:03 pm Resonance
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Please forgive very poor spelling grammer and typing or finger poking, as I have never been good at any of these, lol As a Marine I was list as an Admin Man but they found I
was much better stone cold Killer.
Resonance is something I think we hear from the ringing of different hard and soft woods. equally thin pieces of hard woods will have different resonances or tones. Maple , spruce, oak etc sound diffent that soft AZ. Pine or eastern pine. each is different. I think there is a difference between Curly, birdseye, and tiger maple.
Hope that helps. and thanks for taking the survey. We will see how many tone chasers there are out there, lol
Thanks CAA
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"like an old stallion, lonely for freedom, still trying to out run the wind" Seals,Setser,& Davey.
GAS -1969 ZB D11/10,1974 Sho-Bud D10 Professional,1975 Speedy West S10, 150 yr okd Barn Board tele, Beard signature Gold Tone Dean Acoustic/Electric Bass, Tennessee 12 string Bass, 3 String Shovel.2 Fiddles., Sho-Bud amp, Epiphone valve special amp, Fishman loudbox artist amp. |
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Rick Abbott
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Indiana, USA
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Posted 18 Feb 2018 6:28 pm
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Thanks, Art. I was interested if you were describing tone, as you just have, or sustain, or some other part of the sound of a guitar.
There must be a good reason why many, or most, pedal guitars are maple, be it tiger or Birdseye. Even the vast majority of mica covered guitars are maple. It has snap and sustain.
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RICK ABBOTT
Sho~Bud D-10 Professional #7962
Remington T-8, Sehy #112
1975 Peavey Pacer 1963 Gibson Falcon |
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Donny Hinson
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Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 18 Feb 2018 7:46 pm
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I don't think that the (overall) mica covering on the body affects it very much. What I do think the mica affects is the resonance coupling of the most critical parts to the body of the guitar. Namely, the changer, keyhead, and the neck(s), (in the case of metal necks). I know that many people hear a difference in the "brightness" in tone of mica covered steels, but I believe that brightness factor would disappear if the three parts I mentioned above were mounted onto the wood, instead of on top of the mica. I'm guessing that precision routing to remove the mica covering (only where these parts are mounted) would give a more rounded and "woody" tone to a mica covered pedal steel. Maybe that would give us the best of both worlds - a durable steel with more fullness and character to it's sound.  |
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Art Beard
From:
Once upon a time out west (deceased)
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Posted 18 Feb 2018 7:54 pm Resonance
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that is what this is about Rick. The love if our instruments and what affects ( thanks Ken) our instruments.. the resonance, sustain and tone from the natural wood vs mica covered steels. I think we , no matter how happy with our current steels, are still looking for that next inventive break thru. lol  Look at Ross Shafer's Sierra Steel Guitars. Right now the most innovative steel built. CAA
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"like an old stallion, lonely for freedom, still trying to out run the wind" Seals,Setser,& Davey.
GAS -1969 ZB D11/10,1974 Sho-Bud D10 Professional,1975 Speedy West S10, 150 yr okd Barn Board tele, Beard signature Gold Tone Dean Acoustic/Electric Bass, Tennessee 12 string Bass, 3 String Shovel.2 Fiddles., Sho-Bud amp, Epiphone valve special amp, Fishman loudbox artist amp. |
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Art Beard
From:
Once upon a time out west (deceased)
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Posted 18 Feb 2018 8:04 pm Same
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I think you have something there Donny. Formica is tough and truely protects the wood, but looses a little of the natural tone. I believe the pride of the tree in all its beauty gives a very small extra boost to the tone it has. Its given its live 4 us to use it CAA  
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"like an old stallion, lonely for freedom, still trying to out run the wind" Seals,Setser,& Davey.
GAS -1969 ZB D11/10,1974 Sho-Bud D10 Professional,1975 Speedy West S10, 150 yr okd Barn Board tele, Beard signature Gold Tone Dean Acoustic/Electric Bass, Tennessee 12 string Bass, 3 String Shovel.2 Fiddles., Sho-Bud amp, Epiphone valve special amp, Fishman loudbox artist amp.
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Art Beard
From:
Once upon a time out west (deceased)
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Posted 18 Feb 2018 8:11 pm Resonance
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Guess it would take one builder to build 4 steel to see. Test at SHOWS. One beautiful birdseye maple, one birdseye that we see today, one mica hard,maple and one one like Donny described. With mica cut back to allow the workings to touch the natural wood. CAA
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"like an old stallion, lonely for freedom, still trying to out run the wind" Seals,Setser,& Davey.
GAS -1969 ZB D11/10,1974 Sho-Bud D10 Professional,1975 Speedy West S10, 150 yr okd Barn Board tele, Beard signature Gold Tone Dean Acoustic/Electric Bass, Tennessee 12 string Bass, 3 String Shovel.2 Fiddles., Sho-Bud amp, Epiphone valve special amp, Fishman loudbox artist amp. |
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Art Beard
From:
Once upon a time out west (deceased)
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Posted 18 Feb 2018 8:20 pm Resonance
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Its about our instrument. And hopefully the youth to carry on. The steel has oh so many uses. Country, western, jazz, opera, swing and big band music to name a,few. If we can find some Of the answers and pass them dOwn, i hope that the interest in the instrument grows. CAA 
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"like an old stallion, lonely for freedom, still trying to out run the wind" Seals,Setser,& Davey.
GAS -1969 ZB D11/10,1974 Sho-Bud D10 Professional,1975 Speedy West S10, 150 yr okd Barn Board tele, Beard signature Gold Tone Dean Acoustic/Electric Bass, Tennessee 12 string Bass, 3 String Shovel.2 Fiddles., Sho-Bud amp, Epiphone valve special amp, Fishman loudbox artist amp. |
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