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Topic: C6th copedents |
Larry Hamilton
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Posted 13 Jul 2005 5:52 pm |
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I am looking for for C6th copedents of various players. The usual heavy weights and others. Yes I looked at the "tunings" on the forum and tried several searches. If someone could point me in the right direction it would be greatly appreciated. I know about what I want to add to my guitar but just looking for other ideas just to make sure. Thanks.
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Keep pickin', Larry |
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Bob Tuttle
From:
Republic, MO 65738
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Posted 13 Jul 2005 6:21 pm
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| Larry, have you checked the Carter website, under Road Players? |
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CrowBear Schmitt
From:
Ariege, - PairO'knees, - France
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Erv Niehaus
From:
Litchfield, MN, USA
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Posted 14 Jul 2005 6:12 am
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Pull up Herb Steiner's website. He uses a C6th setup very similiar to Buddy Emmons. That is the setup I have on my C6th neck.
BTW, Herb has some excellent C6th materials for sale.
Erv |
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Drew Howard
From:
48854
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Posted 14 Jul 2005 6:34 am
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Here's some C6 tunings I've collected off the forum, plus the C6 of my Fessenden.
Hal Rugg C6
P4 P5 P6 P7 P8 P9 LL LV LR RL RR
D -------------------------------------------Db
E ---------------------F---------------------D
C ---------------------------D----------------------------B
A ---------------------------B--------------------------------Bb
G ----------------F#--------------------------------F
E ---------------------Eb---------D----------F
C -----------D--------------------C#----C#
A -----Ab-------------------------------B---------------------Bb
F -----------E----F#--------------Eb----A
C -----Bb---------D
Herb Steiner's Fessy
C6
_______LL___LR___4___5___6___7___8___RL___RR
1._D
2._E_____________________F
3._C_________________________D_______B____C#
4._A___Bb___Ab___B___________B
5._G_________________F#
6._E_____________________Eb
7._C_____________________________C#_______C#
8._A___Bb________B
9._F_________________F#__________E
10.C_________________D___________A
My Fessy
C6
_______LL__ LV__LR___4___5___6___7___8___RL___RR
1._D
2._E________Eb_______________F
3._C_____________________________D_______B____C#
4._A___Ab_______Bb___B___________B
5._G_____________________F#
6._E________F _______________Eb
7._C_________________________________C#_______C#
8._A_________________B
9._F_____________________F#__________E
10.C_____________________D___________A
Curley Chalker
Open LKV LKV P4 P5 P6 P7 P8 P9 P10 RKL RKR
E______-Eb__+F_______________________+F________-D
C_________________________________________-B___-B___-B
A______+Bb__+Bb__+B__+B_____________________________-Ab__-Ab
G____________________-F#________-F#
E____________________________________-Eb
C___________________________+C#
A________________+B
F_____________________+F#___-E__+F#
D___________________________+C#
A
cheers,
Drew
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Drew Howard - website - Fessenden D-10 8/8, Fessenden SD-12 5/5 (Ext E9), Magnatone S-8, N400's, BOSS RV-3
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Robbie Daniels
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Casper, Wyoming, USA
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Posted 14 Jul 2005 7:17 am
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I play a D12 MSA and the following is my C6 set-up for your information>
LKV 5 6 7 8 9 RKL RKR
D
G +G#
E +F -Eb
C +D
A +B
G -F#
E -Eb +F
C +C#
A
F +F# -E
C +D -A
F
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MSA D12, MSA S12, 1956 Rickenbacker D8, Evans FET 500LV, Evans SE200, Peavey Transfex Pro[This message was edited by Bobby Lee on 16 July 2005 at 08:33 AM.] |
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Robbie Daniels
From:
Casper, Wyoming, USA
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Posted 14 Jul 2005 7:26 am
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Okay I guess I see that I am not geekish enough 
Won't list spaces, let me try again with my C6 settings
_____LKV____5____6____7____8____9__RKL___ RKR
D
G__________+G#
E_______________+F_____________-Eb
C____________________+D____________-B
A____________________+B___________________+Bb
G____+G#___-F#
E______________-Eb_____________+F
C_________________________+C#
A
F__________+F#____________-E
C__________+D_____________-A
F
I hope this comes out better
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MSA D12, MSA S12, 1956 Rickenbacker D8, Evans FET 500LV, Evans SE200, Peavey Transfex Pro[This message was edited by Robbie Daniels on 14 July 2005 at 08:31 AM.] |
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Richard Sinkler
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aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 14 Jul 2005 4:21 pm
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Mine:
Open LL LV LR 5 6 7 8 9 RL RR
D D#
E F
C C# B D
A Bb Ab B
G F# F
E D# D
C C# B
A Bb Ab G
F E F#
C A D D
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Carter D10 9p/10k, NV400
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basilh
From:
United Kingdom
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Posted 14 Jul 2005 5:29 pm
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Robbie.. to become "Geekish" enough, just click on "Edit" in Richard's post to see how to post TAB Properly..!
Basil
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Russ Wever
From:
Kansas City
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Posted 14 Jul 2005 8:09 pm
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On Curly Chalkers C6 set-up shown above,
pedal 10 lowered the first string ( E ) by a whole-tone to D rather than two tones to C.
~Russ
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Drew Howard
From:
48854
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Posted 15 Jul 2005 6:47 am
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Richard,
Your tuning is really interesting! SPeaking of which, here's a real interesting C6 copedent.
Steel Guitarist Magazine
January 1980
Jimmy Crawford
ML MV MR 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 RL RR
G +G#
E -Eb +F
C +D +C# -B
A +Bb -Ab +Bb +B
G Ab -F#
E +F +F +F -Eb ?B
C +Db +C#
A +Bb -Ab +Bb
F -Eb +F# -E ?B
C +D -A
Drew[This message was edited by Drew Howard on 15 July 2005 at 07:49 AM.] |
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Al Marcus
From:
Cedar Springs,MI USA (deceased)
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Richard Sinkler
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aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 15 Jul 2005 6:00 pm
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Basilh, does that mean I am officially a geek? I've been striving for that for years 
Drew, Thanks. I have always been intrigued by Jimmie's pedal 5. I think I've seen others use that pedal (Buddy Cage?). I've never been able to figure it out despite hours and hours of looking at it and retuning my guitar to those notes.
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Carter D10 9p/10k, NV400
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Ernie Renn
From:
Brainerd, Minnesota USA
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Posted 16 Jul 2005 2:00 am
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Buddy's 10 string C6 tuning:
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My best,
Ernie
www.buddyemmons.com
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Charlie McDonald
From:
out of the blue
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Posted 16 Jul 2005 4:53 am
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Larry, Drew, Ernie and others, how tricky is it to convert your basic three-pedal to C6 from E9? I don't have the guitar yet, and I'm sure I'll find out plenty when I get to experimenting with it.
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Richard Sinkler
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aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 16 Jul 2005 7:22 am
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Charlie, It would depend on the brand of steel. Most all pull guitars should be easy. Also, you didn't mention how many knee levers on the guitar.
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Bobby Lee
From:
Cloverdale, California, USA
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Posted 16 Jul 2005 7:23 am
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Here's mine:
LKL LKV LKR P1 P2 P3 P4 P5 RKL RKR
G -F#
E +F
D +Eb
C +C# +D -B
A -Ab +Bb +B +B
G -F#
E -Eb +F
D -C#
C +C#
A +B
F +F# -E
C +D -A I don't use LKV, LKR or P5 very much. I use LKL+P2 a lot for the A6th chord position.
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Williams D-12 E9, C6add9, Sierra Olympic S-12 (F Diatonic)
Sierra Laptop S-8 (E6add9), Fender Stringmaster D-8 (E13, C6 or A6) |
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Al Marcus
From:
Cedar Springs,MI USA (deceased)
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Posted 16 Jul 2005 7:28 am
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Charlie-Just use pedals -5-6-7- on BE's tuning that Ernie posted.
You can get 90% of all the big band, jazz songs with it.
It is nice to have more pedals and 4 or 5 knee levers, but if you have to, these are your 3 main pedals.
BE's one pull each Knee lever setup, that Ernie posted, is about as ""Lean and Mean"" as you can get....al
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My Website..... www.cmedic.net/~almarcus/
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Charlie McDonald
From:
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Posted 16 Jul 2005 9:24 am
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The situation is: A ZB student, 3/1.
Not enough pedals to make the change.
Oh well, I'll be inventing a new tuning before long. IF I win the bid. 1 hour more.
Charlie |
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Charlie McDonald
From:
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Posted 16 Jul 2005 9:26 am
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Hey Bob,
From the topic 'something you don't see every day' (it's worth seeing, what a steel should look like, to me):
"Hmmm. Seems to have enough room on the players left to mount some Marimba Bars--a la b0b's new toy."
What a concept! |
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John Bechtel
From:
Nashville, Tennessee, R.I.P.
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Posted 16 Jul 2005 6:04 pm
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Drew; The changes that Chalker gave me for the LKV1 and LKV2 were:
_____LKV1––––LKV2
1.E––– Eb–––––F––
2.C––––––––––––––
3.A––– Bb–––––Bb–
This was in early 1980.
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“Big John” Bechtel
’04 SD–10 Black Derby w/3 & 5 & Pad
’49-’50 Fender T–8 Custom
’65 Re-Issue Fender Twin–Reverb Custom™ 15” Eminence
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Gary Walker
From:
Morro Bay, CA
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Posted 18 Jul 2005 8:24 pm
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John B, I too agree with those two verticals on Curly's guitar as I peeked under his Sho-Bud Crossover in '69 in Dallas. That was when it was a big secret what the two levers were and I have a similar setup on mine.
I might add when both up levers were activated, the movement on the E or 1st string were cancelled due to their opposing action. The made just a 7th chord. He used this basic setup for a lotta years. When you hear him, you would swear there were more changes but he just knew how to apply this to amaze the masses, including me. |
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John Bechtel
From:
Nashville, Tennessee, R.I.P.
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Posted 21 Jul 2005 12:20 am
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Here’ the last Stup I used for C6th:
LKL–LKV–LKR–P5–P6–P7–P8–P9–RKL–RKR
_________C________________________
_________Eb_____F_________________
D___________________________B_____
B____B_____________Bb_____________
____________F#__________________G#
_________F______Eb________F_______
_______________________C#_________
_____B_____________Bb_____________
____________F#_________E__________
____________D__________A__________
If I ever use C6 again, this will be it again! But, I plan to eventually go to the C-Diatonic Setup, because; it’s my favorite~tuning!
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“Big John” Bechtel
’04 SD–10 Black Derby w/3 & 5 & Pad
’49-’50 Fender T–8 Custom
’65 Re-Issue Fender Twin–Reverb Custom™ 15” Eminence
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