REECE'S sound/tone
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REECE'S sound/tone
I have listened to the new CD's recorded by Mike Perlowin of Reece's past recordings 3 times now. I beleive I could distinguish Reece's sound/tone from 100 other pros. What is your opinion?
I hear a velvet touch due to his setup or picking technique, very little or no vibrato with perfect intonation,lots of glissando on slower songs filled with grace notes. Sometimes he even gets a sound of the xylophone and guitar.
In my opinion he takes the the pedal steel to another level in his jazz improvision as he surely plays with soul!
Mike had a great idea and did an outstanding
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I hear a velvet touch due to his setup or picking technique, very little or no vibrato with perfect intonation,lots of glissando on slower songs filled with grace notes. Sometimes he even gets a sound of the xylophone and guitar.
In my opinion he takes the the pedal steel to another level in his jazz improvision as he surely plays with soul!
Mike had a great idea and did an outstanding
job in recording reece's past songs. I really do enjoy these recent releases which are available from the Forum!<font size="1" color="#8e236b"><p align="center">[This message was edited by Richard Gonzales on 01 July 2005 at 12:30 PM.]</p></FONT><font size="1" color="#8e236b"><p align="center">[This message was edited by Richard Gonzales on 01 July 2005 at 12:31 PM.]</p></FONT><font size="1" color="#8e236b"><p align="center">[This message was edited by Richard Gonzales on 01 July 2005 at 12:32 PM.]</p></FONT>
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IMO, the use of three finger picks and the chord timbre they provide are a distinctive part of Reece's sound.
I don't believe it is possible to get the clean separation of the notes in four note chords (that are a distinct part of his style) with two finger picks and thumb.
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I don't believe it is possible to get the clean separation of the notes in four note chords (that are a distinct part of his style) with two finger picks and thumb.
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There are a few unusual things in Reece's Bb6th Universal. In an effort to better understand it, I transposed it up a step to C, and then half a step to B. Here's the C chart first: <font face="monospace" size="3"><pre> LKL LKV LKR P1 P2 P3 P4 P5 P6 P7 P8 RKL RKR
1 E +F +F#
2 A -Ab +Bb
3 G +G# -F#
4 E -Eb +F -D
5 C -B +D -B +D
6 A -Ab +Bb +B +
7 G -F#/F -F# -F#
8 E -D -Eb +F
9 C +D -B +C#
10 A -Ab +Bb -G
11 F +F# -E
12 D +Eb -A</pre></font>You can see some standard C6th changes on LKL and pedals 5 through 8.
Now here's the B chart: <font face="monospace" size="3"><pre> LKL LKV LKR P1 P2 P3 P4 P5 P6 P7 P8 RKL RKR
1 D# +E +F
2 G# -G +A
3 F# +G -F
4 D# -D +E -C#
5 B -A# +C# -A# +C#
6 G# -G +A +A# +
7 F# -F/E -F -F
8 D# -C# -D +E
9 B +C# -A# +C
10 G# -G +A -F#
11 E +F -D#
12 C# +D -G# </pre></font>RKL shifts the tuning into something similar to E9th. Pedals 1 and 2 are our familiar stomping ground, but there's no C pedal or F lever!
Much of the tuning is pure Reece, though. Pedals 3 and 4, for example, are unlike anything I've ever seen on anyone else's guitar.
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1 E +F +F#
2 A -Ab +Bb
3 G +G# -F#
4 E -Eb +F -D
5 C -B +D -B +D
6 A -Ab +Bb +B +
7 G -F#/F -F# -F#
8 E -D -Eb +F
9 C +D -B +C#
10 A -Ab +Bb -G
11 F +F# -E
12 D +Eb -A</pre></font>You can see some standard C6th changes on LKL and pedals 5 through 8.
Now here's the B chart: <font face="monospace" size="3"><pre> LKL LKV LKR P1 P2 P3 P4 P5 P6 P7 P8 RKL RKR
1 D# +E +F
2 G# -G +A
3 F# +G -F
4 D# -D +E -C#
5 B -A# +C# -A# +C#
6 G# -G +A +A# +
7 F# -F/E -F -F
8 D# -C# -D +E
9 B +C# -A# +C
10 G# -G +A -F#
11 E +F -D#
12 C# +D -G# </pre></font>RKL shifts the tuning into something similar to E9th. Pedals 1 and 2 are our familiar stomping ground, but there's no C pedal or F lever!
Much of the tuning is pure Reece, though. Pedals 3 and 4, for example, are unlike anything I've ever seen on anyone else's guitar.
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Bobby, thanks for all the great work here.
Could you put this on David Wrights copedent too?
I played David's steel and was amazed by the power and never gopt to comparing it to Reece's, for the differences. On extra vertical at least.
I was thinking the 3rd pedal might be a bit like Jimmy Crawford's 4th pedal on C6... but then again.
Could you put this on David Wrights copedent too?
I played David's steel and was amazed by the power and never gopt to comparing it to Reece's, for the differences. On extra vertical at least.
I was thinking the 3rd pedal might be a bit like Jimmy Crawford's 4th pedal on C6... but then again.
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On that 3rd pedal of Reece's. Yes it is rather rare. He used to just pull the sting 5 and 8 , with 4 picks, he got the chord effect he wanted.
I suggeted he also pull the 9 and 10th string to get the full strummable complete chord for my guitar. That's the way I wanted it on my MSA D12 that I ordered. Otherwise I had him put his complete tuning on it.
I like to strum like Alvino Rey used to do.
Reece with those 4 picks is a master at selecting all the proper strings and strong notes.
Later I saw he added those 2 extra pulls, which in B would give him a full
F#7-9 all the way.
I always felt that Reece was way ahead of his time. Just a fine musician and a real gentleman.....al
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I suggeted he also pull the 9 and 10th string to get the full strummable complete chord for my guitar. That's the way I wanted it on my MSA D12 that I ordered. Otherwise I had him put his complete tuning on it.
I like to strum like Alvino Rey used to do.
Reece with those 4 picks is a master at selecting all the proper strings and strong notes.
Later I saw he added those 2 extra pulls, which in B would give him a full
F#7-9 all the way.
I always felt that Reece was way ahead of his time. Just a fine musician and a real gentleman.....al
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That 3rd pedal and RKR give you a huge 5 chord at the 1 chord position.
I often use the 3rd pedal at the 4 chord position, which yields a big 1 chord. Let off the 3rd and you have an instant 4 chord, move up two frets and you have a 5 chord. I call that 3rd pedal the "Reece pedal".
Yea, RKL gives you a big E9 chord on strings 2-11. From there, sqeeze pedals 1 and 2 for a country-fried 4 chord.
I am very lucky to have him as my teacher.
Hello Al. We must have posted at the same time.
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I often use the 3rd pedal at the 4 chord position, which yields a big 1 chord. Let off the 3rd and you have an instant 4 chord, move up two frets and you have a 5 chord. I call that 3rd pedal the "Reece pedal".
Yea, RKL gives you a big E9 chord on strings 2-11. From there, sqeeze pedals 1 and 2 for a country-fried 4 chord.
I am very lucky to have him as my teacher.
Hello Al. We must have posted at the same time.
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I agree with Bill Hatcher.
Three of my favourites examples are the tone Reece got on Big D Spree which to my ears has a way cool hot "buzzy" sting!, Secret Love on Steel and Brass which IMHumbleO is dynamite arranging and playing! and his version of My Romance which was on steelradio.com.....very svelte.
I would love to know what amp and guitar combos he used on those cuts.
Surely Reece must be one of the most versatile steel guitarists and I have always secretly hoped he would record an album of extended blowing jazz improvisation!
PS: that green and black two tone guitar has got to be one of the coolest looking steels ever!
Three of my favourites examples are the tone Reece got on Big D Spree which to my ears has a way cool hot "buzzy" sting!, Secret Love on Steel and Brass which IMHumbleO is dynamite arranging and playing! and his version of My Romance which was on steelradio.com.....very svelte.
I would love to know what amp and guitar combos he used on those cuts.
Surely Reece must be one of the most versatile steel guitarists and I have always secretly hoped he would record an album of extended blowing jazz improvisation!
PS: that green and black two tone guitar has got to be one of the coolest looking steels ever!
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I thnk that Reece is such a distinctive stylist that anybody who is familiar with his work can instantly identify him.
But the naterial on the CDs was recorded over a 10 year period, and some of it was done on a Mica guitar that may have been made out of die board or some other laminate, and some was done on a maple/lacquer guitar. The 2 guitars sound different and I think I can tell which selections were done on which.
Of the two, I personally prefer the second volume. I think it is one of the best steel guitar CDs ever made, and I'm proud to have been involved in it's production.
But the naterial on the CDs was recorded over a 10 year period, and some of it was done on a Mica guitar that may have been made out of die board or some other laminate, and some was done on a maple/lacquer guitar. The 2 guitars sound different and I think I can tell which selections were done on which.
Of the two, I personally prefer the second volume. I think it is one of the best steel guitar CDs ever made, and I'm proud to have been involved in it's production.
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Johnny Smith is one of my all time favorite guitar players.<SMALL>I've always thought that Reese must have listened alot to Johnny Smith, a jazz guitar player of the '50,s and '60,s. Their chords and single note runs are much alike.</SMALL>
Reece and I talked about how nice it would be if the two of them would collaborate on a project, but it never happened and I doubt that it ever will.
I think Smith is still alive, but if so, he must be close to 90.
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Hi Bill!!!!... by the way how was lunch!!?? when Maurice recorded ..Billy Joe.. that pedal was not created yet...
Don't be fooled by some of the same changes that Maurices uses that are on C 6th... Maurices "sound" is in his grips he uses in playing cords...and let me tell you ... they are some pretty wide and hard grips to learn... but ... it is those grips that give him the voice~ings that makes up the Maurice Anderson Sound....I have spent 35 years studying with Maurice..and every time I study with him.. I learn two things..
1. something new and exciting
2. How much I don't know about playing steel guitar!!!!!!..
Maurice is one of the "true" masters of steel... guitar.........
Don't be fooled by some of the same changes that Maurices uses that are on C 6th... Maurices "sound" is in his grips he uses in playing cords...and let me tell you ... they are some pretty wide and hard grips to learn... but ... it is those grips that give him the voice~ings that makes up the Maurice Anderson Sound....I have spent 35 years studying with Maurice..and every time I study with him.. I learn two things..
1. something new and exciting
2. How much I don't know about playing steel guitar!!!!!!..
Maurice is one of the "true" masters of steel... guitar.........
b0b,
Much thanks for posting the tuning in those 2 transpositions.
I'm wondering (without malice) . . . what the approach would be to tuning a copedent with so many possibilities.
If I had a guitar with that setup, I'd probably play it safe to begin with and go ET. But playing it and sorting that out could take a lifetime. Looks fascinating.
BK
Much thanks for posting the tuning in those 2 transpositions.
I'm wondering (without malice) . . . what the approach would be to tuning a copedent with so many possibilities.
If I had a guitar with that setup, I'd probably play it safe to begin with and go ET. But playing it and sorting that out could take a lifetime. Looks fascinating.
BK
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Richard G....Thank you for the thread and the kind and flattering comments.
Bill H....Interesting analogy and one I had never thought about. Thank you.
Bob K....Yes, I do use different amps from time to time. I currently have a Stereo Steel amp, two different model Evans and two different model Peavey amps. Each provides me a freshness from time to time which I truly enjoy.
Bill C....It's not possible to play a seperated 4 note chord simultaneously with only three picks. My not having the advantantage of the 4 note spreads would seriously inhibit my entire approach to playing.
David D....I believe the structure to which you are eluding comes partly from the 4 pick spread.
You will find that David Wright and I use the same tuning with the exception that he has 2 vertical knee levers and I prefer one. I'm not comfortable with the added space between regular knee levers on the same leg when having two vertical knee levers, but those who have heard him play know the added distance sure doesn't restrict him in any way.
Bobby L....Thank you for going to the time and trouble of transposing and providing my tuning.
Al M....My friend, you know my tuning and history of setup better than I do. Thank you for the kind words.
Ron R....And I'm fortunate to have great students like yourself.
Jimmy D....Thank you for your comments. I agree with you in that the arrangement on my Steel with Brass CD of "Secret Love" is absolutely stunning. I had absolutely nothing to do with it, it was done by Frank Mantooth who has since passed away.
You might be interested in knowing there is now a project being seriously considered that I will be featured on which will have jazz improvisations the likes of which I have never before done.
I still have the two tone green guitar, but I retired it a couple years ago when I got my new Millennium.
Mike P....Thank you for your words and your patience and persistence comncerning my releasing the two CD's.
Dale G....You are right. Johnny Smith was one of my biggest influences along with Barney Kessel, Joe Pass, Tal Farlow, Howard Roberts, George Van Eps, and George Bensen.
Bill C....David is "wright", I had not yet installed those pulls when I recorded "Ode To Billy Joe".
David W....and we never sit down together than I don't learn something from you as well.
Bob K....Interesting analogy, but to my way of thinking my setup is no more bewildering that looking at a keyboard.
Bobby D....Sure looking forward to the pleasure of having you and Brenda here again.
Bill H....Interesting analogy and one I had never thought about. Thank you.
Bob K....Yes, I do use different amps from time to time. I currently have a Stereo Steel amp, two different model Evans and two different model Peavey amps. Each provides me a freshness from time to time which I truly enjoy.
Bill C....It's not possible to play a seperated 4 note chord simultaneously with only three picks. My not having the advantantage of the 4 note spreads would seriously inhibit my entire approach to playing.
David D....I believe the structure to which you are eluding comes partly from the 4 pick spread.
You will find that David Wright and I use the same tuning with the exception that he has 2 vertical knee levers and I prefer one. I'm not comfortable with the added space between regular knee levers on the same leg when having two vertical knee levers, but those who have heard him play know the added distance sure doesn't restrict him in any way.
Bobby L....Thank you for going to the time and trouble of transposing and providing my tuning.
Al M....My friend, you know my tuning and history of setup better than I do. Thank you for the kind words.
Ron R....And I'm fortunate to have great students like yourself.
Jimmy D....Thank you for your comments. I agree with you in that the arrangement on my Steel with Brass CD of "Secret Love" is absolutely stunning. I had absolutely nothing to do with it, it was done by Frank Mantooth who has since passed away.
You might be interested in knowing there is now a project being seriously considered that I will be featured on which will have jazz improvisations the likes of which I have never before done.
I still have the two tone green guitar, but I retired it a couple years ago when I got my new Millennium.
Mike P....Thank you for your words and your patience and persistence comncerning my releasing the two CD's.
Dale G....You are right. Johnny Smith was one of my biggest influences along with Barney Kessel, Joe Pass, Tal Farlow, Howard Roberts, George Van Eps, and George Bensen.
Bill C....David is "wright", I had not yet installed those pulls when I recorded "Ode To Billy Joe".
David W....and we never sit down together than I don't learn something from you as well.
Bob K....Interesting analogy, but to my way of thinking my setup is no more bewildering that looking at a keyboard.
Bobby D....Sure looking forward to the pleasure of having you and Brenda here again.
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He is an incredible musician who totally 'understands' what and why he plays those incredible notes!! Reese is also one of the all-time greatest musicians (regardless of the instrument)who is high on most favorite players. I trust he is voted into the 'Steel Guitar Hall of Fame'very soon. Thanks for all the inspiration and great music!