Lacquer Emmons Project #3 (Brownie) Phase 2 - Assembly

Instruments, mechanical issues, copedents, techniques, etc.

Moderator: Shoshanah Marohn

User avatar
Mike Scaggs
Posts: 1360
Joined: 27 Sep 1999 12:01 am
Location: Nashville, TN
Contact:

Post by Mike Scaggs »

Body is ready for finish now...


Image
Image
Image
Image
Image
I can explain it to you but I can't understand it for you

Zum double Hybrid 8x9, 64 Twin (JBLs), p2pAmps Bad-Dawg, p2pAmps Tremendous Reverb, Visit my website www.p2pamps.com
User avatar
Ken Byng
Posts: 4313
Joined: 19 Feb 2001 1:01 am
Location: Southampton, England

Post by Ken Byng »

You gonna use Southbound Mike? They do a superb finish. The hairline cracks won't be seen as the darkest part of the burst will hide them. Neat. :D
Last edited by Ken Byng on 10 Sep 2017 11:41 am, edited 1 time in total.
Show Pro D10 - amber (8+6), MSA D10 Legend XL Signature - redburst (9+6), Infinity SD10 (4+5) Sho-Bud Pro 111 Custom (8+6), Emmons black Push-Pull D10 (8+5), Zum D10 (8x8), Hudson pedal resonator. Telonics TCA-500, Webb 614-E,
User avatar
Mike Scaggs
Posts: 1360
Joined: 27 Sep 1999 12:01 am
Location: Nashville, TN
Contact:

Post by Mike Scaggs »

Ken Byng wrote:You gonna use Southbound Mike? They do a superb finish.
Absolutely Ken
I can explain it to you but I can't understand it for you

Zum double Hybrid 8x9, 64 Twin (JBLs), p2pAmps Bad-Dawg, p2pAmps Tremendous Reverb, Visit my website www.p2pamps.com
User avatar
Mike Scaggs
Posts: 1360
Joined: 27 Sep 1999 12:01 am
Location: Nashville, TN
Contact:

Post by Mike Scaggs »

This is Hubert Brown "Brownie" in 1978 at the Detour Inn in North Highlands Ca. He was in the band with Okie Paul and Ola Louise. This is just too cool.


Image
I can explain it to you but I can't understand it for you

Zum double Hybrid 8x9, 64 Twin (JBLs), p2pAmps Bad-Dawg, p2pAmps Tremendous Reverb, Visit my website www.p2pamps.com
User avatar
Tom Quinn
Posts: 2753
Joined: 4 Aug 1998 11:00 pm

Post by Tom Quinn »

I didn't know you had Sacramento roots Mike. That's great. It's a wonderful city. And I'm glad you knew Chris...
I need an Emmons!
User avatar
Mike Scaggs
Posts: 1360
Joined: 27 Sep 1999 12:01 am
Location: Nashville, TN
Contact:

Post by Mike Scaggs »

Tom Quinn wrote:I didn't know you had Sacramento roots Mike. That's great. It's a wonderful city. And I'm glad you knew Chris...
Yes Tom, I was born and raised in Sacramento. I had the pleasure of picking with guys like Brownie, Chris Ivy, and so many many more. Things really changed out there and we moved to Nashville 13 years ago. It was time...
I can explain it to you but I can't understand it for you

Zum double Hybrid 8x9, 64 Twin (JBLs), p2pAmps Bad-Dawg, p2pAmps Tremendous Reverb, Visit my website www.p2pamps.com
User avatar
Mike Scaggs
Posts: 1360
Joined: 27 Sep 1999 12:01 am
Location: Nashville, TN
Contact:

Post by Mike Scaggs »

Cleaning parts now while I wait for the finish from Southbound.


Image
Image
Image
I can explain it to you but I can't understand it for you

Zum double Hybrid 8x9, 64 Twin (JBLs), p2pAmps Bad-Dawg, p2pAmps Tremendous Reverb, Visit my website www.p2pamps.com
User avatar
Mike Scaggs
Posts: 1360
Joined: 27 Sep 1999 12:01 am
Location: Nashville, TN
Contact:

Post by Mike Scaggs »

Step one in the finish process. This ole boy will be a 3 tone burst...


Image
I can explain it to you but I can't understand it for you

Zum double Hybrid 8x9, 64 Twin (JBLs), p2pAmps Bad-Dawg, p2pAmps Tremendous Reverb, Visit my website www.p2pamps.com
Bryan Martin
Posts: 86
Joined: 28 Nov 2014 11:23 pm
Location: Quebec, Canada

Post by Bryan Martin »

Mike,

It is fantasic to watch the restoration.

I have a question that I hope is not too personal, and perhaps will shed some light on the changes in pedal steel and likely country music in general. You mentioned that things changed 'out there' (Sacramento) and you moved to Nashville. What things impacted you and your work, that you felt it was time to make a change?

Cheers, Bryan
User avatar
Mike Scaggs
Posts: 1360
Joined: 27 Sep 1999 12:01 am
Location: Nashville, TN
Contact:

Post by Mike Scaggs »

Bryan Martin wrote:Mike,

It is fantasic to watch the restoration.

I have a question that I hope is not too personal, and perhaps will shed some light on the changes in pedal steel and likely country music in general. You mentioned that things changed 'out there' (Sacramento) and you moved to Nashville. What things impacted you and your work, that you felt it was time to make a change?

Cheers, Bryan
PM'd you
I can explain it to you but I can't understand it for you

Zum double Hybrid 8x9, 64 Twin (JBLs), p2pAmps Bad-Dawg, p2pAmps Tremendous Reverb, Visit my website www.p2pamps.com
Don Mogle
Posts: 1469
Joined: 10 Aug 2000 12:01 am
Location: Round Rock, TX, USA

Brownie

Post by Don Mogle »

Hi Mike,

I hadn't heard from you in awhile with the latest on this restoration. What's the status? Any new updates? Is the body finished?

I've really enjoyed watching these Emmons PP transformations. It will kind of be a let down after this guitar is finished since it appears to be the last one in your restoration series.

You should get into the restoration business! Your work is great!

Thanks,

Don
User avatar
Mike Scaggs
Posts: 1360
Joined: 27 Sep 1999 12:01 am
Location: Nashville, TN
Contact:

Post by Mike Scaggs »

Hey Don,

Things are on hold now till the body comes back from Southbound and I get the polishing back. I am expecting a few more weeks. After that I will begin the whole assembly process. This is going to be a great guitar...:)
I can explain it to you but I can't understand it for you

Zum double Hybrid 8x9, 64 Twin (JBLs), p2pAmps Bad-Dawg, p2pAmps Tremendous Reverb, Visit my website www.p2pamps.com
Terry Barnett
Posts: 164
Joined: 25 Jan 2009 7:20 pm
Location: Winnipeg Manitoba, Canada

Post by Terry Barnett »

Waiting on the edge of my seat.
User avatar
Mike Scaggs
Posts: 1360
Joined: 27 Sep 1999 12:01 am
Location: Nashville, TN
Contact:

Post by Mike Scaggs »

Got al the metal back from polishing today and man Doug at Bud's polishing knows his stuff! Expecting the body in a week from today. Gonna get real fun soon
I can explain it to you but I can't understand it for you

Zum double Hybrid 8x9, 64 Twin (JBLs), p2pAmps Bad-Dawg, p2pAmps Tremendous Reverb, Visit my website www.p2pamps.com
Don Mogle
Posts: 1469
Joined: 10 Aug 2000 12:01 am
Location: Round Rock, TX, USA

Brownie

Post by Don Mogle »

Thanks for the update Mike! Looking forward to the next round of pictures.

Don
User avatar
Mike Scaggs
Posts: 1360
Joined: 27 Sep 1999 12:01 am
Location: Nashville, TN
Contact:

Post by Mike Scaggs »

Just back from finish


Image
Image
Image
Image
I can explain it to you but I can't understand it for you

Zum double Hybrid 8x9, 64 Twin (JBLs), p2pAmps Bad-Dawg, p2pAmps Tremendous Reverb, Visit my website www.p2pamps.com
User avatar
Ken Byng
Posts: 4313
Joined: 19 Feb 2001 1:01 am
Location: Southampton, England

Post by Ken Byng »

That is just stunning Mike, and certainly one of a kind. Another successful project by Southbound. Can't wait to see her fully assembled.
Show Pro D10 - amber (8+6), MSA D10 Legend XL Signature - redburst (9+6), Infinity SD10 (4+5) Sho-Bud Pro 111 Custom (8+6), Emmons black Push-Pull D10 (8+5), Zum D10 (8x8), Hudson pedal resonator. Telonics TCA-500, Webb 614-E,
User avatar
Mike Scaggs
Posts: 1360
Joined: 27 Sep 1999 12:01 am
Location: Nashville, TN
Contact:

Post by Mike Scaggs »

Ken Byng wrote:That is just stunning Mike, and certainly one of a kind. Another successful project by Southbound. Can't wait to see her fully assembled.
Thanks Ken

Yeah the finish is very nice on this one for sure. It will be a few week before I get started on this one. Lots going on right now and Im not in a hurry at all...
I can explain it to you but I can't understand it for you

Zum double Hybrid 8x9, 64 Twin (JBLs), p2pAmps Bad-Dawg, p2pAmps Tremendous Reverb, Visit my website www.p2pamps.com
Roy Peterman
Posts: 264
Joined: 16 Jan 2008 3:28 pm
Location: Muncy Valley, Pennsylvania

Post by Roy Peterman »

Mike, I am curious as to how many coats of lacquer are sprayed on the cabinet? That is a beautiful finish for sure!
User avatar
Dale Rottacker
Posts: 3513
Joined: 3 Aug 2010 6:49 pm
Location: Walla Walla Washington, USA
Contact:

Post by Dale Rottacker »

Mike what a cool Sunburst... You keep doing this and I’m going to be more tempted than I may be able to resist... Pray for me Mike :oops:
Dale Rottacker, Steelinatune™
*2021 MSA Legend, "Jolly Rancher" D10 10x9
*2021 Rittenberry, "The Concord" D10 9x9
*1977 Blue Sho-Bud Pro 3 Custom 8x6
https://msapedalsteels.com
http://rittenberrysteelguitars.com
https://www.telonics.com/index.php
https://www.p2pamps.com
https://www.quilterlabs.com
User avatar
Mike Scaggs
Posts: 1360
Joined: 27 Sep 1999 12:01 am
Location: Nashville, TN
Contact:

Post by Mike Scaggs »

Dale Rottacker wrote:Mike what a cool Sunburst... You keep doing this and I’m going to be more tempted than I may be able to resist... Pray for me Mike :oops:
Let's do one up Dale :)
I can explain it to you but I can't understand it for you

Zum double Hybrid 8x9, 64 Twin (JBLs), p2pAmps Bad-Dawg, p2pAmps Tremendous Reverb, Visit my website www.p2pamps.com
User avatar
Mike Scaggs
Posts: 1360
Joined: 27 Sep 1999 12:01 am
Location: Nashville, TN
Contact:

Post by Mike Scaggs »

Roy Peterman wrote:Mike, I am curious as to how many coats of lacquer are sprayed on the cabinet? That is a beautiful finish for sure!
So.... The finish is not lacquer but Acrylic Urethane. Lacquer as you might guess is very fragile and dries very hard. It is also a little hard to maintain in my experience. On the other hand, urethane is tough and polishes out great and holds it's shine. With modern materials, we now have great choices when it comes to finish products. The guys at Southbound in Nashville are among the best in the business IMHO and when they tell me to go a certain way I listen. Now if I were restore a 61 Strat I would use Nitro Lacquer but steel guitars is urethane all the way.

Just my 2 cents

Mike
I can explain it to you but I can't understand it for you

Zum double Hybrid 8x9, 64 Twin (JBLs), p2pAmps Bad-Dawg, p2pAmps Tremendous Reverb, Visit my website www.p2pamps.com
User avatar
john widgren
Posts: 2623
Joined: 24 Nov 1998 1:01 am
Location: Wilton CT

fisish

Post by john widgren »

I agree with Mike and Steve (from southbound) Poly is the only way to go these days. Vastly superior durability, and amazing gloss. No Cracks! Sounds great, tastes great, less filling.
I use it exclusively on my refinish jobs.
Steel Guitar Services:
Live performance and recording. Instruments, repairs and lessons. Fresh bait/discount sushi.
(203) 858-8498
widcj@hotmail.com
User avatar
Dale Rottacker
Posts: 3513
Joined: 3 Aug 2010 6:49 pm
Location: Walla Walla Washington, USA
Contact:

Post by Dale Rottacker »

Mike Scaggs wrote:
Dale Rottacker wrote:Mike what a cool Sunburst... You keep doing this and I’m going to be more tempted than I may be able to resist... Pray for me Mike :oops:
Let’s do one up Dale :)
Mike, as tempting as that is, if I did that I’d have to come live with you... there’s only so much I can get past my wife... :lol: :lol: :lol:
Dale Rottacker, Steelinatune™
*2021 MSA Legend, "Jolly Rancher" D10 10x9
*2021 Rittenberry, "The Concord" D10 9x9
*1977 Blue Sho-Bud Pro 3 Custom 8x6
https://msapedalsteels.com
http://rittenberrysteelguitars.com
https://www.telonics.com/index.php
https://www.p2pamps.com
https://www.quilterlabs.com
User avatar
Mike Scaggs
Posts: 1360
Joined: 27 Sep 1999 12:01 am
Location: Nashville, TN
Contact:

Post by Mike Scaggs »

Getting ready for a maple pedal stop bar




Image
Image
I can explain it to you but I can't understand it for you

Zum double Hybrid 8x9, 64 Twin (JBLs), p2pAmps Bad-Dawg, p2pAmps Tremendous Reverb, Visit my website www.p2pamps.com
Post Reply