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Topic: Franklin copedent feasible on P/P? |
Jay Hallstrom
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Kenmore, Washington, USA
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Posted 23 May 2005 8:13 pm |
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| Is it reasonable to set up a mid eighties Emmons P/P with the Franklin copedent? Thanks in advance to any kind enough to give advice. I'm trying to decide whether to commit to the maintenance of the Emmons, or to sacrifice tone and go for something newer which can do the changes needed.... |
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Bobby Boggs
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Upstate SC.
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Posted 23 May 2005 8:46 pm
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Most if not all of Paul Franklins E9 set-up can be installed on a PP. It's not a job I'd want.However if you're refering to his C6th set-up forget it.  |
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John Bechtel
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Nashville, Tennessee, R.I.P.
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Posted 23 May 2005 10:17 pm
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You might be able to do the C6 also, with a hydraulic~jack of some sort! 
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Jay Jessup
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Charlottesville, VA, USA
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Posted 24 May 2005 5:26 am
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| I expect you could get close to it but I am not sure you would like the way the guitar plays after you have done it. Primary issues would be how much slack you would have to have in the fifth and tenth strings to get the whole tone drop/whole tone raise working, then there's all those pulls on C6 which were referenced above. If you check Ernie's website in the ask Buddy section look for where he talks about his 'Martino' tuning this is similar to Pauls and of course Buddy had it on P/Ps but he stopped using it because it was so hard to push the pedal. |
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John Poston
From:
Albuquerque, NM, USA
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Posted 24 May 2005 7:07 am
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A related question,
For P/P players lowering G# to G - how big of an effect is that having on your raise on 3 and 6? I'm thinking of adding that eventually to mine. |
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Larry Bell
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Englewood, Florida
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Posted 24 May 2005 7:18 am
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G# to G is no problem at all, John
I think of it as a Jimmie Crawford change -- he used it a lot and always had it as his second LKL, staggered in front of the F lever on his cluster. It sounds great with the A pedal, so that's a really good place to put it. I don't have it on my push-pull U-12 but I did have it on my last p/p D-10.
It does require some slack in the raise, but not enough to create a problem.
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Bob Kagy
From:
Lafayette, CO USA
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Posted 24 May 2005 9:51 am
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I tried most of his C6th changes on an all-pull and found that there were difficulties. As much as I liked some of them, I backed off and changed to a more mainstream setup.
Also, I've been led to understand that the Franklin guitars have various means to accomplish some of Paul's changes such as helper springs, different length changer fingers, etc. (somebody straighten me out if I'm wrong)
Hope this helps.
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Charlie Moore
From:
Deville, Louisiana, USA
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Posted 24 May 2005 4:09 pm
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| I have the change on my 4th pedal on my 78 p/p,it was not a problem,to over come the slack in the whole tone drop on the 5th string i just extended the bellcrank's 1/4 in. it work's great...Charlie...... |
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Jay Hallstrom
From:
Kenmore, Washington, USA
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Posted 24 May 2005 5:46 pm
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| All, thanks for the help. Charlie, thanks for the specifics with yours. What duties does pedal 4 share on the C6 neck? [This message was edited by Jay Hallstrom on 24 May 2005 at 06:52 PM.] |
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