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Topic: Li'l Izzy Demonstration: with vs without... |
Jim Cohen
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Philadelphia, PA
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Posted 8 Aug 2017 7:31 pm |
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Made a little video tonight comparing the sound of my rig (MSA Millennium through Roland 80XL) with and without the Li'l Izzy in line. See if you can tell which is which, and which sound you preferred... Feel free to post your guesses and observations below.
https://youtu.be/3LKzt28kJkU
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Don Mogle
From:
Round Rock, TX, USA
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Posted 8 Aug 2017 8:32 pm
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| I think track #2 was with the Lil Izzy. |
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Doug Beaumier
From:
Northampton, MA
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Lane Gray
From:
Topeka, KS
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Posted 8 Aug 2017 10:52 pm
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I vote 2
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Todd Goad
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Gray, Georgia, USA
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Posted 8 Aug 2017 11:54 pm
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#2
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Billy Murdoch
From:
Glasgow, Scotland, U.K.
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Posted 9 Aug 2017 12:23 am
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Douglas Schuch
From:
Valencia, Philippines
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Posted 9 Aug 2017 1:54 am
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Another vote for track 2. I use an Izzy, and I can hear the brighter and "punchier" tone, as well as the better string seperation in chords the Li'l Izzy gives. And I am the guy who ususally can not hear a difference between different pickups or the tone differences between guitars. If I am correct then it confirms what I've always said - the two things that make the biggest difference in my tone (besides replacing me with a real steel guitar player!) are the amp and the Li'l Izzy. If I am wrong, then perhaps I am just hearing what I expect to hear?
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Marco Schouten
From:
Amsterdam, The Netherlands
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Posted 9 Aug 2017 2:02 am
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I hear a slight difference. I'm not going to guess which track uses the Izzy, I liked track 1 a bit more than track 2.
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gary pierce
From:
Rossville TN
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Posted 9 Aug 2017 4:20 am
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Number 2 seems to have just a little more string separation, and brightness.
I vote #2, and I am impressed with the Roland 80XL. |
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Dale Rottacker
From:
Walla Walla Washington, USA
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Jack Stanton
From:
Somewhere in the swamps of Jersey
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Posted 9 Aug 2017 5:23 am
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Another vote for #2, although #1 was quiet "acceptable"  .
Quick question Jim, did you adjust the amp differently for #2? My experience with the Izzy is that it gave great definition, especially to the lower strings, but pretty radically accentuated the high end. I'm not hearing that in your recording.
That Craig Baker was a clever fellow. |
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Jim Cohen
From:
Philadelphia, PA
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Tom Campbell
From:
Houston, Texas, USA
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Posted 9 Aug 2017 5:52 am
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WOW...can't believe your getting those rich sounds out of a Roland!
I vote for #2...because of the clarity.
I use a L'Izzy, but not all the time...depends upon the pickup I'm using (I play a Sierra with inter-changeable pickups). |
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Bill Terry
From:
Bastrop, TX
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Posted 9 Aug 2017 6:00 am
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I don't really know what the L'Izzy is supposed to do, but I like #2 better.  Less 'clutter' or something, not that #1 is bad. |
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gary pierce
From:
Rossville TN
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Posted 9 Aug 2017 6:16 am
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| Jim was there effects used inline or on board? If not, that room sounds great. |
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Jim Cohen
From:
Philadelphia, PA
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Dale Rottacker
From:
Walla Walla Washington, USA
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Posted 9 Aug 2017 6:20 am
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Jim what VP are you using?... I use a Multi-Taper and a Rev Tube Pre-amp... I’ve been told that with these I don’t need the Li’l Izzy as they both have buffer’s built in... I loved it on the 1st Mullen I had, in fact I used 2 of them with that guitar... I have no idea what the pickup was as I was never able to identify it, but they made a huge positive change to that guitar... When I got my 2nd Mullen with Quad 705’s in it, my ears said I needed to take them off, so I never used them with that guitar, though when Mickey had it, he did... I haven’t tried it with my MSA and the 710 pickup, but maybe I should try that again.
Jim would you suggest any changes to ones amp settings when adding the Izzy in the chain?
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Rick Barnhart
From:
Arizona, USA
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Posted 9 Aug 2017 6:29 am
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I don't care which was which. You're execution is excellent on both cuts. Now, I regret parting with my Roland Cube 😂 Buddy would be proud.
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Jim Cohen
From:
Philadelphia, PA
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Doug Beaumier
From:
Northampton, MA
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Jim Cohen
From:
Philadelphia, PA
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Posted 9 Aug 2017 9:09 am
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Well, so far I'm the only one to vote for #1. Either I'm a genius or a total loser!  |
I'll let you know this evening which of the two you are. Meanwhile, feel free to twist in the wind.
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Mike Wheeler
From:
Delaware, Ohio, USA
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Posted 9 Aug 2017 9:20 am
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I think #2 has the Izzy, but I liked track #1 much more than #2. It was more punchy and musical, and didn't have that faint buzzy sound in the high freqs.
Your execution was masterful, Jim. Such a joy to watch and listen.
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Lee Baucum
From:
McAllen, Texas (Extreme South) The Final Frontier
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Posted 9 Aug 2017 9:42 am
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| I vote for B. A sounded great, though. |
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Dick Wood
From:
Springtown Texas, USA
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Posted 9 Aug 2017 10:05 am
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Put me down for #2
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John Sluszny
From:
Brussels, Belgium
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Posted 9 Aug 2017 10:19 am
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#2 definitely ! It gives your Roland amp a tubey sound.
(jmho) Nice playing tho' ! |
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