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Stone Preston
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RKL not working

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Not sure what I did to cause this, but my RKL is not working correctly.

I noticed that RKL (which is supposed to raise both strings 1 and 7 to G) was only raising string 7.

The rod attached to string 1 is engaging, but it doesnt have enough pull to engage the finger of the changer. I tried tightening the tuner for that rod but its screwed as far as it can go but string 1 is still not budging.

Brand new to pedal steel so I'm not exactly sure how to go about fixing it.

Any ideas?
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Post by Tim Russell »

It sounds like the bellcrank has loosened up on that string. What guitar is this?
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Post by Charlie McDonald »

Stone, did I read where you got a Stage One?
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Post by David Nugent »

Could be the bell crank or possibly a loose rod depending on the pull system (if your pull rods have the right angle bend and secure to the bell crank with clips, this is most likely not the problem; the straight through style normally feature a tiny allen set screw to secure the rod which at times can loosen). Also, the nylon tuning nut itself could be stripped and not holding securely...FYI: If one of the above is causing the difficulty, be certain to back off the tuning nut before anything is tightened, otherwise you may have little or no adjustment available on the rod.
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Post by Stone Preston »

Its a stage one
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Post by Stone Preston »

here is a video of the lever. Let me know if you need to see another angle or anything.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kv8AUY7DzEo
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Post by Jerry Overstreet »

Your nylon tuner for string one is too short and not reaching the finger far enough. You either need a longer one or put a small spacer between it and the finger. They should all be the same length.

You can find nylon spacers at the local home improvement stores.

If Doug sees your video, he can advise you on whether the rodding is correct etc. and other stuff including this.
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Post by Stone Preston »

I've emailed Doug to see what he thinks about it. Thanks for the help guys.
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non-working pull

Post by Charley Bond »

Looks like your nylon nut has bottomed out. If you look in one end & see threads & look in the other end & see hole, turn the hole end toward the guitar & start turning..

If this ain't the problem, put a short spacer of any kind (tubing, washers or ????)between the nut & the changer, that should give you some pitch change on that string.

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Post by Stone Preston »

I have a quick question about how pitch lowers work for this pedal steel. I can see that when a string is raised, the rod is pulled back and the nylon nut attached to the rod pushes the finger in, raising the pitch of the string.

How do lowers work? The rod is pushed the opposite direction but there is no nut on the other side to push the finger the opposite way. I can see that the finger actually does get pushed the other way but how?
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Post by Charlie Hansen »

I'm no expert but I'm fairly sure that the tension of the string activates the lower.
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Click HERE for diagram.

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Post by Stone Preston »

Got a spacer for the tuner and its working fine now! Thanks guys!
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