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Topic: 2nd string D# - C# change |
Scott Swartz
From:
St. Louis, MO
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Posted 25 Apr 2005 9:35 am |
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I have my E9 2nd string change set up up for D# to D only. I don't like half stops, tried them they are not for me. So, I would like to add the D# to C# somewhere else where it wouldn't interfere with the existing change.
One that popped into my head was add it to the E to D# lever. This would use the unison D# but I never used that anyway.
Would this work? Any other good places? |
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Bobby Lee
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Cloverdale, California, USA
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Posted 25 Apr 2005 11:18 am
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Jeff Newman used it. Some people say that it makes the lever too stiff.
I almost never use the 2nd string C# without lowering my E strings. It's a natural combination, like the high D string on C6th.
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Al Marcus
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Cedar Springs,MI USA (deceased)
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Posted 25 Apr 2005 8:25 pm
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Bobby-Do you mean the high D on C6??...
I use that a lot as my tonic note for P5 and also in conjunction with the C to B Knee Lever for a maj7th......al
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Larry Bell
From:
Englewood, Florida
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Posted 26 Apr 2005 6:08 am
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I've been lowering the 2nd to C# on the E to D# lever for a long time. I tune my 2nd to D, so I can't comment on the D# to C# re: stiffness, but both my old Emmons and new Fessy lower both E's along with the D to C# on 2 with very little effort. I wouldn't think that lowering it one half-step further would make a big difference, but it's possible. Try it.
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Bobby Lee
From:
Cloverdale, California, USA
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Posted 26 Apr 2005 7:48 am
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Um, yes Al. That was a typo. I'll correct it. 
When you lower the E strings to D# on the E9th, the second string C# is similar to the D string on the C6th. |
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Al Marcus
From:
Cedar Springs,MI USA (deceased)
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Posted 26 Apr 2005 5:58 pm
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As Larry Bell says, it is Logical to put the D# to C# pull on the lever that flats the E"s. Especially on the B6 side as well as E9. It is a little stiff but worth it...al 
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richard burton
From:
Britain
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Posted 26 Apr 2005 10:13 pm
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I like the unison effect on strings 2 and 4 (handy for playing the first bit of the 'Look at us' solo, etc), when the E's are lowered.
These unison notes would be lost if string 2 was lowered along with string 4.
R B |
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Tony Prior
From:
Charlotte NC
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Posted 27 Apr 2005 2:16 am
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Many things would be lost..but if we are not playing them then I guess nothing is lost.
My feeling is that it is there for a reason, to gain the most flexibility from the Instrument.
there are a few phrases that I play that have the 2nd string 1/2 tone lowered and I rock off the A Pedal..I'm not sure I am physically capable of playing that phrase lowering the 2nd 1/2 step with the LKR while rocking the outside A pedal.
I think the answer is to mechancally get the 2nd string lower stiff enough where you can feel it and take most of the guess work out.
I recently spoke with John Fabian about this exact same issue and he advised on how to
stiffin' up the half stop...
It's kinda like trying to find a quick and simple way to play the difficult things, which at the end of the day there is just one way, practice.
I too don't like the half stop and I am using it more and more these days but the answer for me is not to change the guitar but rather get the player ( me) to do something 
It is foreign but if ya think about it the whole stinkin' Instrument is foreign !
happy half stop
t
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Glenn Suchan
From:
Austin, Texas
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Posted 27 Apr 2005 9:01 am
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Scott,
On one of my guitars I had that change on the LKV along with the forth string raise E to F# and seventh string raise F# to G.
Keep on pickin'!
Glenn[This message was edited by Glenn Suchan on 27 April 2005 at 10:07 AM.] |
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Glenn Suchan
From:
Austin, Texas
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Posted 27 Apr 2005 9:07 am
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OOOPPS! Double posted...my bad.
[This message was edited by Glenn Suchan on 27 April 2005 at 10:10 AM.] |
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