Volume Pedals
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- Brian Waits
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Volume Pedals
If you were given a choice between these two volume pedals, which would you choose ?
1.Fender Classic
2.Ernie Ball VP Jr.
1.Fender Classic
2.Ernie Ball VP Jr.
1976 Sho Bud Pro III SD10
Carvin 150 with Profex II
Carvin 100 tube amp with Transtube fex Stereo 2 15"JBL D130's
Session 400 with JBL D130
Carvin 150 with Profex II
Carvin 100 tube amp with Transtube fex Stereo 2 15"JBL D130's
Session 400 with JBL D130
- Tim Russell
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I have the Ernie Ball VP Jr., and I have to say, I am not impressed with it. I had an Ernie Ball from the 80's & it worked great. My issue with the Jr. is that it is not "even volume" the whole way through the pedal travel.
It starts out gradual and then suddenly shifts to a higher volume.
I'm sure I could replace the pot with something better...but I bought the pedal "new" so I wouldn't have to fiddle with it & repair it right out of the box. So for now, it sits unused & I use an old Dunlop.
Maybe I got a bad one...YMMV.
It starts out gradual and then suddenly shifts to a higher volume.
I'm sure I could replace the pot with something better...but I bought the pedal "new" so I wouldn't have to fiddle with it & repair it right out of the box. So for now, it sits unused & I use an old Dunlop.
Maybe I got a bad one...YMMV.
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- Brian Waits
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Volume Pedal
Tim, mine is the 6180 I think and it has a small taper switch just inside behind where the jacks plug in. The up position fixes that issue. The down position puts more emphasis on the second half of travel. I tried it. It works. Its a micro switch.Just lower the volume all the way and look behind the jack plate.
1976 Sho Bud Pro III SD10
Carvin 150 with Profex II
Carvin 100 tube amp with Transtube fex Stereo 2 15"JBL D130's
Session 400 with JBL D130
Carvin 150 with Profex II
Carvin 100 tube amp with Transtube fex Stereo 2 15"JBL D130's
Session 400 with JBL D130
- Bill Ferguson
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Mine would be neither.
If you want a "pot" pedal for steel, Goodrich is the only way to go. IMHO
If you want a "pot" pedal for steel, Goodrich is the only way to go. IMHO
AUTHORIZED George L's, Goodrich, Telonics and Peavey Dealer: I have 2 steels and several amps. My current rig of choice is 1993 Emmons LeGrande w/ 108 pups (Jack Strayhorn built for me), Goodrich OMNI Volume Pedal, George L's cables, Goodrich Baby Bloomer and Peavey Nashville 112. Can't get much sweeter.
- Jack Hanson
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Ditto. For a free-standing pedal I would get a vintage Sho-Bud, and for one to hang from a pedal rack I would get a vintage Emmons. Install a new Dunlop or Goodrich pot and it'll be good to go for years. And it will hold its value if & when you decide to sell.Bill Ferguson wrote:Mine would be neither.
- John Booth
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Re: Volume Pedal
Brian,Brian Waits wrote:Tim, mine is the 6180 I think and it has a small taper switch just inside behind where the jacks plug in. The up position fixes that issue.
Thanks for this tip. Mine had this switch and man, it's a lot better now !
Thank you
JB
Jb in Ohio
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- Brian Waits
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Welcome
Your very welcome John. Now, send me something of that talent ya got....lol
1976 Sho Bud Pro III SD10
Carvin 150 with Profex II
Carvin 100 tube amp with Transtube fex Stereo 2 15"JBL D130's
Session 400 with JBL D130
Carvin 150 with Profex II
Carvin 100 tube amp with Transtube fex Stereo 2 15"JBL D130's
Session 400 with JBL D130
- Tim Russell
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Brian,
Thanks for that tip! I am usually pretty thorough, and if that switch is listed in the manual, I'm sure I would have tried that. But, I can't recall...
Anyway, I do see that switch and I have now switched it to the "down" position. Is that where you guys have it? I can't try it out right now, but I will when I get a chance and report back later.
If that takes care of the issue I described, that I would say I would be pleased with the pedal. I would like to own a Hilton or Goodrich, but I just cannot bring myself to spend that kind of money on one...at least not right now, and especially since I have played using cheap pedals for years and they always worked fine for me.
I've also owned a big chrome Sho-Bud pedal, and that rectangular De Armond in the past, and they worked fine for me to. The Emmons clip on pedal worked great for me as well.
As long as I can get a smooth, steady volume taper out of it, I guess I'm not that fussy.
Thanks for that tip! I am usually pretty thorough, and if that switch is listed in the manual, I'm sure I would have tried that. But, I can't recall...
Anyway, I do see that switch and I have now switched it to the "down" position. Is that where you guys have it? I can't try it out right now, but I will when I get a chance and report back later.
If that takes care of the issue I described, that I would say I would be pleased with the pedal. I would like to own a Hilton or Goodrich, but I just cannot bring myself to spend that kind of money on one...at least not right now, and especially since I have played using cheap pedals for years and they always worked fine for me.
I've also owned a big chrome Sho-Bud pedal, and that rectangular De Armond in the past, and they worked fine for me to. The Emmons clip on pedal worked great for me as well.
As long as I can get a smooth, steady volume taper out of it, I guess I'm not that fussy.
Sierra Crown D-10
- Brian Waits
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Volume Pedal
Tim,
I have mine in the up position which is where it has the slight boost in the front of the sweep creating a more gradual swell.
I have mine in the up position which is where it has the slight boost in the front of the sweep creating a more gradual swell.
1976 Sho Bud Pro III SD10
Carvin 150 with Profex II
Carvin 100 tube amp with Transtube fex Stereo 2 15"JBL D130's
Session 400 with JBL D130
Carvin 150 with Profex II
Carvin 100 tube amp with Transtube fex Stereo 2 15"JBL D130's
Session 400 with JBL D130
- Tim Russell
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I just check mine. It is the 6180 model. Set in either position, it did not fix my issue. What I am experiencing is this;
From the off position, just opening up the pedal slightly, it "jumps" to volume, instead of coming on from full silence to fading in. It is sort of a "jarring" effect, like if you switched a radio on and the volume was preset to 3 or 4, that sudden blast of sound.
I have tried moving the pot/string, case it was an adjustment issue, but I guess I must have a defective pot.
From the off position, just opening up the pedal slightly, it "jumps" to volume, instead of coming on from full silence to fading in. It is sort of a "jarring" effect, like if you switched a radio on and the volume was preset to 3 or 4, that sudden blast of sound.
I have tried moving the pot/string, case it was an adjustment issue, but I guess I must have a defective pot.
Sierra Crown D-10
- Brian Waits
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Volume Pedal
Tim,
I just checked mine and it doesn't seem to have a volume jump with the switch in the "up" position. It is a gradual increase throughout the travel. In the switch "down " position, it has a jump in the second half of travel. Unfortunately, it does sound like you have a issue with the pot itself. Might could order just a new pot.
I just checked mine and it doesn't seem to have a volume jump with the switch in the "up" position. It is a gradual increase throughout the travel. In the switch "down " position, it has a jump in the second half of travel. Unfortunately, it does sound like you have a issue with the pot itself. Might could order just a new pot.
1976 Sho Bud Pro III SD10
Carvin 150 with Profex II
Carvin 100 tube amp with Transtube fex Stereo 2 15"JBL D130's
Session 400 with JBL D130
Carvin 150 with Profex II
Carvin 100 tube amp with Transtube fex Stereo 2 15"JBL D130's
Session 400 with JBL D130
- John Booth
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Time for a new pot buddy.Tim Russell wrote:I just check mine. It is the 6180 model. Set in either position, it did not fix my issue. What I am experiencing is this;
From the off position, just opening up the pedal slightly, it "jumps" to volume, instead of coming on from full silence to fading in. It is sort of a "jarring" effect, like if you switched a radio on and the volume was preset to 3 or 4, that sudden blast of sound.
I have tried moving the pot/string, case it was an adjustment issue, but I guess I must have a defective pot.
JB
Jb in Ohio
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GFI S10 Ultra, Telecaster, a Hound Dog, and an Annoyed Wife
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Going back to your original question, why do you ask?
And just as a rule of thumb: If you are going straight from guitar to volume pedal, I would suggest a pedal with a 500K pot minimum.
The amount of highs that can be lost between a 250K versus a 500K versus a 1 Meg is subtle, but can be heard in the right circumstances.
And just as a rule of thumb: If you are going straight from guitar to volume pedal, I would suggest a pedal with a 500K pot minimum.
The amount of highs that can be lost between a 250K versus a 500K versus a 1 Meg is subtle, but can be heard in the right circumstances.
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