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Topic: C6/ E9th |
Yann Obergfell
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Gottenhouse, France - Soon in Bloomington, Indiana
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Posted 27 Mar 2005 7:21 am |
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hello,
I've got this song to learn (Oklahoma Swing) Can you tell if a song is played with a E9th or a C6th neck? I just can't get the right licks on my Fender/Sho-bud S-10. (E9th tuning) I wondered if my playing was still too weak or if the player on the recording used a C6th tuning. Is it possible to reproduce on a E9th neck the same kind of licks and complex chords ? I'm fairly new to pedal steel and the instrument is still a mystery to me... thanks |
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Bobby Lee
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Cloverdale, California, USA
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Posted 27 Mar 2005 9:33 am
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Is that the Vince Gill/Reba Montgomery duet from the "I Call Your Name" album? If so, I listened to the first 30 seconds of it on the internet. It sounds like C6th to me, but the hot Nashville players can get that same sound out of E9th when they want to.
When you use the lever to lower your E strings you have a B6th tuning that's very similar to C6th just a fret lower. When the song goes to the IV chord, use the 9th string instead of the 8th to add a low 7th note to the chord. The grips are different, but a lot of the basic "C6th sound" is there on the E9th.[This message was edited by Bobby Lee on 27 March 2005 at 09:38 AM.] |
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Yann Obergfell
From:
Gottenhouse, France - Soon in Bloomington, Indiana
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Posted 27 Mar 2005 10:21 am
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| Thanks, this is very helpful. |
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Cor Muizer Jr
From:
The Netherlands/europe
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Posted 27 Mar 2005 10:25 am
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YES, it was played on the C6th i think.
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Cor
soundengineer/steelplayer Rains D10 8×5 RED
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Jeff Lampert
From:
queens, new york city
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Posted 27 Mar 2005 10:51 am
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Hook Moore
From:
South Charleston,West Virginia
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Posted 27 Mar 2005 10:56 am
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I have not heard the tune in a long time but I think it was Paul Franklin /C6th..Then there was a live radio version with John Hughey on C6th.
Hook
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Kevin Hatton
From:
Buffalo, N.Y.
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Posted 27 Mar 2005 11:19 am
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| C6th. I had to play it in a band. |
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Don McClellan
From:
California/Thailand
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Posted 27 Mar 2005 11:24 am
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| Yann, you won't be new for too long but the mystery is here to stay. b0b, says "a lot" of the C6th sounds can be found on the E9th tuning. With all do respect to b0b, I'd say "some" at best, not a lot. If you want the C6th sound, do it the easier way - on a C6th neck. The sooner you start......and don't be afraid of it. I was for years. Stupidist thing I ever did. |
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Yann Obergfell
From:
Gottenhouse, France - Soon in Bloomington, Indiana
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Posted 28 Mar 2005 9:04 am
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| I guess I've got to get myself a D-10 then... geeee |
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Jerry Hayes
From:
Virginia Beach, Va.
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Posted 28 Mar 2005 10:15 am
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Or you could go with the wave of the future and get you a U-12 and have it all...JH in Va.
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Bennie Hensley
From:
Yakima, Washington, USA
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Posted 28 Mar 2005 12:44 pm
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| Don, I hope you are right about "don't be afraid of it". I just bought a D 10 MSA. |
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CrowBear Schmitt
From:
Ariege, - PairO'knees, - France
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Posted 28 Mar 2005 2:37 pm
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yep that C6 neck is Dyn-O-mite Yann  |
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Joe Miraglia
From:
Jamestown N.Y.
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Posted 28 Mar 2005 2:45 pm
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| Jerry " The wave of the future",Wait till I sell my D-10. My U12 is on the way,I'm going U12.When you look at the C6th. set up and the U12 set up it's there one fret up. Plus other neat things ,like being able to have the top G note and the D note ,when you need then. First string G on first fret ,D note 2nd. string lower -1 with lever. Why I'm I saying this-- there are lots of U12 players out there that know more about the tuning.Joe [This message was edited by Joe Miraglia on 28 March 2005 at 02:59 PM.] [This message was edited by Joe Miraglia on 28 March 2005 at 03:01 PM.] |
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Herb Steiner
From:
Briarcliff TX 78669, pop. 2,064
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Charles Turpin
From:
Mexico, Missouri, USA
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Posted 30 Mar 2005 9:44 am
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Herb you might not be in that pasture long. I love bothe the Universal and the Double 10 i got bothe of them.There are different presents on bothe of the guitars. I played Universal for 15 years and i am glad that i did. Cause where i started playing steel in 81 and guitar since i was 10. I look at the universal now as a very big stepping stone to the D10. I was more able to understand the tuning of the C6th easier learning the Universal first. But when i went to the D 10 six years ago i learned there was so much i was missing. Like the D string chords. Then plus I didn't have to hold that one knee lever over,The universal is a very good thing though if you set and play by yourself a lot cause it has the deep sound on the E9. Where the double neck dont. Then the major thing is underneath the guitar.On a double neck guitar there is a lot more room when you go to adding changes. Like Russ Wever and some of them pros they have 10 to 14 KNee levers you cant get that under a Universal body. But you can on a D10. SO Herb you aint going to be in the field alone cause i will be there with bothe my guitars hehehehe. 
Universal 12 Zum/D10 Zum steel/Nashville 400 Peavy/goodrich volume pedal/digetech delay |
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John Coffman
From:
Wharton,Texas USA
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Posted 8 Apr 2005 2:53 pm
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| Herb, I'm with you. Watch your step [This message was edited by John Coffman on 08 April 2005 at 03:53 PM.] [This message was edited by John Coffman on 08 April 2005 at 03:54 PM.] |
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