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Topic: Push pull universals, how many? |
Olli Haavisto
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Jarvenpaa,Finland
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Posted 18 Mar 2017 10:40 am |
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Does anybody know how many full blown Universal 12-strings left the factory? Approximately
Not 12-strings in general, but ones that were originally set up as universals....
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Olli Haavisto
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Herb Steiner
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Briarcliff TX 78669, pop. 2,064
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Posted 18 Mar 2017 12:56 pm
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Hey Olli 
I've never seen a factory uni, but I'd imagine there are some out there.
Bobby Bowman told me that setting up a 12-string universal on a PP was his most challenging job. But he was very particular about setting up PPs. He didn't say whether it was a Bb6 Uni or an E9/B6 Uni that was more difficult.
I'd ask Mike Cass or Lynn Stafford which of those would be their favorite setup.
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Ken Metcalf
From:
San Antonio Texas USA
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Posted 18 Mar 2017 3:02 pm
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| Very few that had seven or eight pedals if any. |
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Lee Baucum
From:
McAllen, Texas (Extreme South) The Final Frontier
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Posted 18 Mar 2017 5:26 pm
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Herb - When you sold my Emmons E9/B6 U-12 for me, where did it go? The Netherlands?
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Herb Steiner
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Briarcliff TX 78669, pop. 2,064
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Posted 18 Mar 2017 5:48 pm
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That was a long time ago, Lee.
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Olli Haavisto
From:
Jarvenpaa,Finland
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Posted 19 Mar 2017 9:38 am
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Lynn Stafford
From:
Ridgefield, WA USA
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Posted 19 Mar 2017 10:21 am Push-Pull Univerals
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| Herb Steiner wrote: |
Hey Olli
I've never seen a factory uni, but I'd imagine there are some out there.
Bobby Bowman told me that setting up a 12-string universal on a PP was his most challenging job. But he was very particular about setting up PPs. He didn't say whether it was a Bb6 Uni or an E9/B6 Uni that was more difficult.
I'd ask Mike Cass or Lynn Stafford which of those would be their favorite setup. |
Hi Herb,
Yes, these setups are very challenging, to say the least! I just recently finished converting a ST-12 Ext. E9 3x4 PP to a U-12 7x5 setup for a customer in Seattle. No less than six half-stop tuners were required, along with a lot of patience! Owners of these very complex guitars need to have a very clear understanding of how to tune everything.
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Lynn Stafford
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Steel Guitar Technician (Restoration, Set-up, Service and Repair work)
Previous Emmons Authorized Dealer & Service Technician (original factory is now closed)
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Bob Hoffnar
From:
Austin, Tx
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Posted 19 Mar 2017 10:39 am
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I had a full set up U12 rosewood PP that I bought used and then had Bobby Bowman put my set up on. It sounded and played great. It had the legrande type pedals.
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Olli Haavisto
From:
Jarvenpaa,Finland
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Posted 19 Mar 2017 10:55 am
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This one had been set up by Bowman, too.
I believe it is a '79 or '80, Legrande pedals.
Btw what were the original tuning keys on this era push pulls?
This one has aftermarket Schallers which seem to work great...
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Pete Burak
From:
Portland, OR USA
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Posted 19 Mar 2017 11:24 am
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| I ordered/bought one new in '82. Jeff Newman 7x4 S12U setup (no LKR). Still have it. |
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Jon Light (deceased)
From:
Saugerties, NY
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Posted 19 Mar 2017 12:33 pm
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| I know that my black double body is still in Brooklyn. I was never able to ascertain if it was a legit ST-12 or a stripped D-12. It was configured like Larry Bell's lean/mean Uni with only 6 pedals. Mid 70's guitar. I regret selling it but it's getting played more than I would be playing it so I'm glad of that. |
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GaryL
From:
Medina, OH USA
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Posted 19 Mar 2017 3:41 pm
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I remember seeing Cowboy Eddie Long playing an Emmons single neck with Hank Williams Jr. back in the early 80's. I'm thinking that it was probably a Universal. Push-pull? I didn't know enough to ask at the time.
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Larry Bell
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