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Topic: what's the difference in different models of psg? |
scott murray
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Asheville, NC
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Posted 3 Nov 2016 10:33 am |
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I'm on the market for another steel.
I currently play a Sho-Bud Pro III but I've never really known the difference between it and The Professional, Super Pro, Pros I & II, etc.
likewise what's the difference between the various Lashley Legrandes by Emmons?
I'd be interested to know the difference in other brands as well. thanks gang
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Brint Hannay
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Maryland, USA
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Posted 3 Nov 2016 12:58 pm
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This web page is pretty thorough about Sho-Buds:
http://steelguitarnetwork.net/forums/topic/57/field-guide-to-sho-bud-pedal-steel-guitars
One thing it doesn't mention is that the Super Pro (prob. also the Super Pro II) has less height difference between the front and rear necks than all the other Sho-Bud double bodies. On the Super Pro the step-down is 1/4", like virtually every modern steel. All the others (LDG included) have 3/4". |
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scott murray
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Asheville, NC
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Posted 3 Nov 2016 4:25 pm
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great info. thanks Brint!
can anyone tell me the difference between the Lashley Legrande I, II, and III?
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1965 Emmons S-10, 3x5 • Emmons LLIII D-10, 10x12 • JCH D-10, 10x12 • Beard MA-8 • Oahu Tonemaster |
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Tony Prior
From:
Charlotte NC
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Posted 4 Nov 2016 1:15 am
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The link is excellent regarding Sho Buds but doesn't make clear what the major advantages are of the new era All PULL guitars vs the 60's and 70's era. Which would be true for most brands.
for ex: talking about the Pro III, great guitar great tone. Not so easy to set up for smooth action as it only has a double raise and single lower changer and TWO hole pullers which don't allow for timing strings and making pulls longer or shorter. In some cases the pulls barley reach the "pitch" point. But for the time it was excellent. I've owned 3 of them, you can't beat the tone. My 1st car was also a 54 Chevy with no power steering !
fast forward to a Legrande style ALL PULL guitar.
The LII's and LIII's for example have a triple raise and double lower changer as well as 14 hole pullers (bell cranks) which allow for close to exact timing of the pulls which allows for excellent smooth action .
The primary difference with the Lashley Legrande is that it used 4 hole pullers rather than 14 hole pullers. Still a fine guitar. It used the triple raise, double lower changer as well. The L-III also has a feature called Counter Force which prevents cabinet drop while the L-II is the same guitar without the Counter Force.
Many of the modern era guitars have very similar all pull systems which allow for excellent timing of pulls as well as as adjusting the pedal action for a softer,smoother feel. Changer raises and lowers as well as bell crank holes may be different but they all have advanced ability to improve action and time the pulls.
As you look for a newer Steel, it is very important to understand what the ALL PUll system is , triple raise, triple lower, how many pull points on the pullers (bell cranks) . All of this matters for action as well as how many pulls can the changer accommodate per string.
This is important as at some point you may like to make a change or ADD a change.( additional raise or lower )
The history of the Steel models is very important but when you make a decision to make a purchase the underside is equally important to how nice the body looks ! True, we don't play the bottom, but to play the top the bottom has to be set up correctly and to your specifications.
When we see for sale adds, this is why people are asking for the copedant instead of just accepting Standard Emmons as the definition. A savvy Steel guy or gal can look at the photo's of the underside and changer end and SEE the copedant so those photo's are very valuable.
Hope this helps
good luck
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