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Ed Naylor · From: portsmouth.ohio usa, R.I.P.

There are so many possibilities it is hard to describe. The old 'Fingertippers" and lots of other guitars had single raise pulls only.Springs were used a lot so that a finger could be lowered.If someone would post photos I can send some and maybe it will help understand the workings and what modification can do. Ed Naylor Steel Guitar Works.

John Schjolberg · From: Minnesota, USA

Ed Naylor · From: portsmouth.ohio usa, R.I.P.

Call me at 1-800-749-3363, I can probably tell you what needs to be done. ED

David Doggett · Posted 26 Jan 2005 1:48 pm

John, you can add a LKL that raises 4 and 8 without giving up a pedal. I did. But you will not be able to both raise and lower string 8. You will have to take off the string 8 lower. You can move it to String 7 or 9. For the new lever will need a ShoBud lever, a partial cross-shaft with the kind of ball-end bell crank Mavericks had, a ball-socket and hook (like on the other Maverick pulls), two attachment brackets to attach the cross-shaft, a yoke to link the bell crank and the two coat-hanger pull rods. If Ed Naylor can't supply those, Bobbe Seymour at Steel Guitar Nashville probably can. You could put all this on the pedal one (leftmost) cross-shaft. But then you would have to move the A pedal to pedal two, and the B pedal to pedal 3 (unless you have a Day setup now, with pedals 1, 2, and 3, being C, B, A). I assume you want to get rid of the C pedal.

Marco Schouten · From: Amsterdam, The Netherlands

Actually you can raise and lower the same string on a Maverick. It's a bit primitive, but you tune the lower at the endplate, and the raise by adjusting the lenght of the pull underneath the guitar.

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Steelin' Greetings
Marco Schouten
Sho-Bud LLG; Guyatone 6 string lap steel; John Pearse bar; Emmons bar; Evans SE200 amp

David Doggett · Posted 26 Jan 2005 5:46 pm

I don't get it, Marco. In order to raise and lower the same string, the finger has to sit in the middle of the changer slot. If the raise rod is shortened to hold it there, how does the lower lever counter that to let the finger move to the right side of the slot and hit the endplate tuner? I suppose you could have a spring attached to the raise mechanism that holds the finger in the middle but lets it move to the right for a lower. But the lower works only by string tension and that would not be enough to over come the raise spring. The push-pull solved that dilemma by having a spring hold the finger in the middle position and having a push-rod push against it to allow the lower. I thought the Emmons push-pull was the first design to allow a raise and lower on the same string. Then ShoBud switched over from the permanent (which had the same raise-lower limitation as the Maverick) to the all-pull.

Marco Schouten · From: Amsterdam, The Netherlands

David,

I have to dig in my memory, but indeed they used a spring to balance the changer finger in the middle, and you're right, the lowering of the string was done by string tension only. I'll try to find a picture of it.

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Steelin' Greetings
Marco Schouten
Sho-Bud LLG; Guyatone 6 string lap steel; John Pearse bar; Emmons bar; Evans SE200 amp

Winnie Winston · From: Tawa, Wellington, NZ * R.I.P.

A Maverick is, essentially, a very simple single finger steel. There were many steels made like that in the early days. If one looks at Lloyd Green's tuning, you see that he lowers his 8th E, but not his 4th-- all stemming from the difficulty, way back when, of lowering AND raising the same string.
Weldon Myrick is another with a similar set up. When Weldon wants an Eb in the bottom, he lowers his 8th. When he wants an F in the bottom he lowers his F# (7th string).
I have seen several Mavericks which were modified to accept three more knee levers-- all done with the changer that is already there. It IS possible-- and not too hard to do.

JW

richard burton · From: Britain

I have a pull-release steel that raises and lowers the same string by a very simple mechanism, which could easily be done on a Maverick.
Basically, if a string is lowered by a knee lever, that knee lever is kept in its un-activated position by a spring, which is just strong enough to overcome string tension.
There are two rods hooked to the changer finger, one rod to raise, one rod to lower. The lowering rod is hooked to the spring-loaded knee lever. When the knee lever is activated, string tension lowers the note. when the knee lever is released, spring tension pulls the finger back up to its central position.
R B

Jerry Hayes · From: Virginia Beach, Va.

I remember over 20 years or so ago while I was still in California there was a guy mentioned quite a bit in the PSGA newsletter in New York by the name of Bruce Derr or something like that. It seems he was a pretty good player and played a souped up Maverick. They posted his copendant once and I think it was at least 3 knee levers. I know that he had taken the C pedal and raised the 5th string to C# along with the 6th string G# to A so that pedal would give him a nice maj7. Also he had a lever which raised both E's to F and one that lowered the 2nd string to D and the 9th string to C#. I think the last knee lever probably raised the 1st and 7th strings to G. It looked pretty interesting and useable. From what they used to say in that newsletter, this guy was pretty hot on western swing styles. Does anyone know him and if he's still around? The copedant would look like this (or similar).



     LKL LKR  1  2  3  RKL


F#        G


D#                      D


G#               A


E     F


B             C#    C#


G#               A  A


F#        G


E     F


D                       C#


B             C#

Have a great day........JH

David Doggett · Posted 28 Jan 2005 10:42 am

Bruce's copedent is interesting, but notice he doesn't raise and lower the same string anywhere. With no E lowers, the F lever is a piece of cake. The raises on strings 1 and 7 are a nice touch. I pulled those with my finger behind the bar (today I have those raises on LKV - great for blues, rock and jazz).

I can see how Richard's method would work on a Maverick. With the lower-lever spring holding the lever against a stop on the left (which could be tunable), you would tune the open string with nothing activated. The activated lower would be tuned with the endplate allen screw. Then you would have to have some way to tune the raise. I guess if there was a lower-lever tunable stop for the open position, you could pull the finger against the body for the raise without a tunable stop. It would all have to be engineered pretty well. My lower-lever didn't always return to the stop, so I would have to put a wedge under the loop spring, or take it off and bend it backwards to put more tension in it - not a great system.

richard burton · From: Britain

David D,
That's exactly how it works. The raise stops at the body, the open note is tuned by an adjustable knee lever stop, and the lower is tuned by a stop on the endplate.
Obviously, the rod from the knee lever to the changer finger must have an adjustable collar on it, to enable the initial setting up of the knee lever in a usable position.
R B

Rob van Duuren · From: The Netherlands

Maverick converted to 3+4(with a little help from Dr Bob), LKL:[8,4]+1/2, LKR:[8,4]-1/2,RKL:[1]+1,[2]+1/2, RKR:[2]-1/2,[9]-1/2. works fine.....

Rob van Duuren · From: The Netherlands

ooops, guess it is easier than adding a picture to my post....gimme a minute...rob

Rob van Duuren · From: The Netherlands

let's see.....

[This message was edited by b0b on 04 February 2005 at 08:39 PM.]

Lem Smith · From: Long Beach, MS

With that pretty maple that they used to build the Mavericks, why in the world did Sho~Bud put that ugly vinyl covering on them??? Was it really THAT much cheaper than going with the wood finish?

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