Lovin' Spoonful

Jim Cohen · Post by **Jim Cohen** » 5 Oct 2016 8:33 pm

Hey, now even better, featuring Paul Franklin on steel, and Vince Gill on harmony vocals...

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Mike Perlowin · Post by **Mike Perlowin** » 5 Oct 2016 9:47 pm

Jim Cohen wrote:Hey, now even better, featuring Paul Franklin on steel, and Vince Gill on harmony vocals...

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https://www.facebook.com/countryrebelcl ... 287651015/

Cool. Sebastian looks like he's really enjoying himself.

Joachim Kettner · Post by **Joachim Kettner** » 6 Oct 2016 2:25 am

This was great! Thanks Jim!

Rich Upright · Post by **Rich Upright** » 6 Oct 2016 6:54 pm

Pat; the song you are referring to might possibly be "Butchie's Tune". There were some steel-like licks on that, and one of their more country sounding songs.

Joachim Kettner · Post by **Joachim Kettner** » 17 Mar 2017 11:12 am

The "Zally" influence in Richard Thompson's guitar playing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-_67pF7paA

Fred Treece · Post by **Fred Treece** » 18 Mar 2017 8:49 pm

Earnest Bovine wrote:
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Out of the 600 flame top Les Pauls that Gibson made in 1959, only about 18,000 remain today.

That has to be the funniest one liner on the forum, ever. Thanks for the laugh, Earnest!

Jim Fogle · Post by **Jim Fogle** » 12 Jun 2021 5:07 pm

Randy Van Warmer wrote "Just When I Needed You Most" and the song was released in 1979. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just_When ... d_You_Most

One of the more interesting things about the song is Randy Van Warmer re recorded the pop hit as a country song.

Both recordings include John Sebastien playing the Autoharp. In fact the same recorded track was used.

Bruce Derr · Post by **Bruce Derr** » 13 Jun 2021 5:43 pm

Old thread, but if anyone's interested, the June issue of Vintage Guitar magazine has a nice writeup on John Sebastian's sunburst Les Paul.

https://www.vintageguitar.com/category/issue-archive/

Joachim Kettner · Post by **Joachim Kettner** » 27 Jul 2021 8:09 am

Hank Marvin's version of Daydream:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNhWI0zdGrw

Jack Hanson · Post by **Jack Hanson** » 27 Jul 2021 9:02 am

Zally was the bomb!

Jim Cohen · Post by **Jim Cohen** » 27 Jul 2021 8:32 pm

Joachim Kettner wrote:Hank Marvin's version of Daydream:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNhWI0zdGrw

Really enjoyed that; thanks for posting it Joachim!

BTW, when "Daydream" first came out, my mother swore that Sebastian had stolen it from an earlier song; she just couldn't remember the details but felt positive that it was not a newly-written song. I never came across any other song that might have been what she was thinking of. Have you?

Fred Treece · Post by **Fred Treece** » 27 Jul 2021 10:59 pm

Your mom had a good ear.

Not so much stolen, but borrowed some stuff maybe. Sebastian was supposedly influenced by the hit song Deep Purple when he wrote Daydream.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vGDbXEk9USE

Daydream has a Tin Pan Alley feel to it, much like the Beatles â€œHoney Pieâ€ and the Kinks â€œSunny Afternoonâ€, among others of the era. The nostalgia and familiarity are built in. The talent to match the sentiment of the lyric with a dated musical style and turn out a fresh sounding original masterpiece for the ages boggles my lesser human mind.

Roger Rettig · Post by **Roger Rettig** » 28 Jul 2021 3:25 am

Good point, Fred. Another Beatles song that sits firmly in that category is 'Your Mother Should Know'. I'm not a huge fan of the Fab Four but that song always touches me.

Joachim Kettner · Post by **Joachim Kettner** » 28 Jul 2021 4:27 am

I guess that Fred gave you the right answer to your question, Jim.
Also the similarities to some of the kinks and Beatles songs are evident.
Aside from his lightheartedness J.Sebastian also made a few sad songs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZcbbfWB9_c

Bob Carlucci · Post by **Bob Carlucci** » 28 Jul 2021 6:17 am

I always thought it was JS that played steel on Nashville Cats and Rain on the Roof.. It is certainly a Fender,, The sound is very distinct...

Jack Hanson · Post by **Jack Hanson** » 28 Jul 2021 7:11 am

Bob Carlucci wrote:I always thought it was JS that played steel on Nashville Cats and Rain on the Roof.. It is certainly a Fender,, The sound is very distinct...

Some years back I met Mr. Sebastian at the Dakota in downtown Minneapolis. I inquired about the pedal steel work on those Lovin' Spoonful classics, and he confirmed to me he had played it himself on a Fender.

Jack Hanson · Post by **Jack Hanson** » 29 Jul 2021 7:03 am

Fred Treece wrote:Not so much stolen, but borrowed some stuff maybe. Sebastian was supposedly influenced by the hit song Deep Purple when he wrote Daydream.

Strange, but true: Mr. Sebastian is on record stating he patterned Daydream after the groove of Baby Love by the Supremes, with whom the Spoonful became friendly during an early bus tour. Kind of a combo platter between Cannon's Jug Stompers and the Funk Brothers!

Fred Treece · Post by **Fred Treece** » 29 Jul 2021 9:27 am

Jack Hanson wrote:Strange, but true: Mr. Sebastian is on record stating he patterned Daydream after the groove of Baby Love by the Supremes, with whom the Spoonful became friendly during an early bus tour. Kind of a combo platter between Cannon's Jug Stompers and the Funk Brothers!

And I thought Deep Purple was a stretch! LOL

Iâ€™m going to try to draw the connection, though, with the only groove similarity I hear in both songs. The kick/snare swing-8th drum pattern (Boom-whap / bah Boom-whap) on Baby Love is kinda sorta what the rhythm guitar is doing on Daydream (bass note - bass note - plucked chord). Since there is no drum track on Daydream, maybe thatâ€™s what JS meant. But I do not claim to know how the mind of a genius works.

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