02' Zum D-10, Black,.........Sold

Paul Awalt · Post by **Paul Awalt** » 21 Sep 2016 9:36 am

8&5, Emmons Setup, Never played out, Original owner. $5,300.00. Plus shipping. No trades.[/quote]

Paul Awalt · Post by **Paul Awalt** » 21 Sep 2016 1:00 pm

Paul E Vendemmia · Post by **Paul E Vendemmia** » 24 Sep 2016 3:12 pm

For what it's wroth I know Paul and his equipment is in perfect shape ! And Like brand new. you will not be sorry If you buy from him.

Raymond Eicher · Post by **Raymond Eicher** » 24 Sep 2016 6:04 pm

Say it ain't so Paul?? You love this guitar!
I know this man. I know this guitar. They are BOTH Wonderful!

Randy Gilliam · Post by **Randy Gilliam** » 28 Sep 2016 12:48 pm

Does it have the anti tuneing sevise?

memphislim · Post by **memphislim** » 28 Sep 2016 12:58 pm

Randy Gilliam wrote:Does it have the anti tuneing sevise?

I can see from the pics it does not.

Paul Awalt · Post by **Paul Awalt** » 28 Sep 2016 2:30 pm

Randy, It doesn't have the anti-tune, but it stays in tune and doesn't break strings.

memphislim · Post by **memphislim** » 28 Sep 2016 2:33 pm

The anti de-tuning device is located between the pickup and changer, top-side.

Dean Holman · Post by **Dean Holman** » 29 Sep 2016 5:53 am

Bruce didn't start using the ACS device until 2005. Zums have very minimal cabinet drop and stays in tune great without the device.

Damir Besic · Post by **Damir Besic** » 29 Sep 2016 8:04 am

I have never seen a de-tuning device on ZUM, only de-tuning device I know of is on Emmons LL III, located between pick up and a changer ... I talked to some ZUM guys , and was told that ZUM have some de-tuning system, but nothing on or around the changer and a pick up like Emmons LL III...again, I may be wrong...wouldn't be the first time...

memphislim · Post by **memphislim** » 29 Sep 2016 8:30 am

The device sits between the pickup and changer axle. When the fingers move forward, a cam on the finger engages with the screws coming out of the block and pushes the axle back.
There is a came on every finger but only the 4 and 5 string engage the set screws which determine how much deflexion on the axle. Brilliant and simple design that works magnificently. Less complex, more precise and far less intrusive then the LLIII system.

Damir Besic · Post by **Damir Besic** » 29 Sep 2016 8:34 am

I have never seen that before in my life, and I did have bunch of ZUM's old and new... was that a standard option or custom order? what year guitars have it? I don't know anything about it, so every little info would be highly appreciated...thanks

memphislim · Post by **memphislim** » 29 Sep 2016 8:36 am

This is from my guitar which is a 2011. At a certain point, all Zums either had this, ACS, or the Hybrid changer. ACS to my knowledge was the standard changer and the Hybrid was a premium.

Damir Besic · Post by **Damir Besic** » 29 Sep 2016 8:42 am

memphislim wrote:This is from my guitar which is a 2011. At a certain point, all Zums either had this, ACS, or the Hybrid changer. ACS to my knowledge was the standard changer and the Hybrid was a premium.

i had no idea, that is very interesting, thanks for the info... I know about the Hybrid , but never heard of or seen ACS...thanks

Dean Holman · Post by **Dean Holman** » 30 Sep 2016 12:14 am

I've been playing Zums for almost 30 years. My Zum is a 2004 without the ACS screw. ACS stands for Adjustable Changer Support. The first guitar I saw with the ACS screw was Wayne Dahl's 2005 Zum. From that point on they have been standard on Bruce's standard non hybrid guitars. It even says it on the Zum website as being a standard feature. I always thought the anti tuning device on the Emmons L111 guitars was unnecessary. They could've come up with the same idea or something simpler and easier than what they came up with.

Damir Besic · Post by **Damir Besic** » 30 Sep 2016 2:52 am

I personally believe that anti de-tuning device is unnecessary period...you can either play the thing in tune or you can not...if someone plays out of tune, it will always play out of tune, device or not... Tommy White doesn't have one on his Mullen, and I never heard him play out of tune... $:\$

Dean Holman · Post by **Dean Holman** » 30 Sep 2016 8:56 pm

Your right Damir, that has been my point for a long time. You can have a guitar with no cabinet drop, but if you don't learn how to play in tune, cabinet drop is not the issue. Steel guitar is a very mental and physical instrument to play. The player has to work at playing the steel. But that's the challenge that's supposed to be fun. Back to this guitar that's for sale. This guitar is pretty much the same as a new one as far as how Bruce builds them from that year up to now except for the ACS device. Good luck on the sale.

Paul Awalt · Post by **Paul Awalt** » 1 Oct 2016 9:19 am

Thanks, Dean.

Randy Gilliam · Post by **Randy Gilliam** » 2 Oct 2016 7:26 pm

My 2006 Zum with the anti tuneing devise. Has almost 0 cabinet drop thats what its for.I will buy anouther one when it comes up for sale!

Danny Letz · Post by **Danny Letz** » 3 Oct 2016 4:32 pm

I don't think the antidetuning device was available on the Hybrid changer.

Erv Niehaus · Post by **Erv Niehaus** » 4 Oct 2016 7:57 am

You are correct.

Paddy Long · Post by **Paddy Long** » 4 Oct 2016 12:28 pm

Thats correct Danny, and probably not needed - the two Hybrids that I have, have practically no measurable cabinet drop

Raymond Eicher · Post by **Raymond Eicher** » 4 Oct 2016 2:29 pm

Has this Great Steel for sale post been hijacked? There are other places to discuss your guitars.
I believe this wonderful guitar is up for sale, not just up for discussion.
Thanks,
Ray Eicher

steve takacs · Post by **steve takacs** » 6 Oct 2016 1:35 am

Raymond,
I think that, in spite of comments about the anti-detuning device on some Zums etc., most of us realize this Zum is for sale. Randy's question about whether this Zumsteel had the anti-detuning device was a legitimate one, Stevet

Raymond Eicher · Post by **Raymond Eicher** » 6 Oct 2016 3:13 am

Requiring what is now 21 extra comments?
Goodnight!

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