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Jeff Metz Jr.


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York, Pennsylvania, USA
Post  Posted 22 Jul 2016 1:48 pm    
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I find myself wanting to have a change on my 7th string. What do you guys use? I also find that having the franklin pedal Lower 5,6,and 10 a whole tone doesn't make as much sense to have my Vertical lower my Bs. what do you have on your guitar? Thanks
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Lane Gray


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Topeka, KS
Post  Posted 22 Jul 2016 2:13 pm    
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String 4 is E. LKL raises it to E#/D, LKR lowers it to D#, C pedal raises it to F# (along with raising 5 to C#).
If you mean string 7, I don't have any change on it: I get the G by lowering 6 to F# and adding the B pedal.
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Howard Parker


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Post  Posted 22 Jul 2016 2:29 pm    
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Did you mean LKL raise to F?

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Jeff Metz Jr.


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Post  Posted 22 Jul 2016 2:57 pm    
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Edited sorry. I meant string 7
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Howard Parker


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Post  Posted 22 Jul 2016 2:59 pm    
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Then what Lane said. Most guitars will split the B pedal raise with a knee lower.

Voila!

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Jeff Garden


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Center Sandwich, New Hampshire, USA
Post  Posted 22 Jul 2016 3:02 pm    
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I'm confused...string 6 is a G#...do you mean string 7 F#?
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Paul Sutherland

 

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Placerville, California
Post  Posted 22 Jul 2016 3:04 pm    
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Jeff: You should edit the title. It's easy to do.

I lower the sixth string to F# (as part of a split Franklin set-up) on my Williams. But on my Emmons Push-pull I don't have any lowers on that string. I do, however, raise the seventh from F# to G.
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Tim Russell


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Post  Posted 22 Jul 2016 4:43 pm    
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Since the title has been edited to the 7th string, I suppose I need to edit my post as well, lol.

String 7 for me is raised, RKR, from F# - G. That change was on my first Sho-Bud, some 35 yrs. ago and I've always liked it, so I stuck with it. Makes for a nice scale run up lick, on pedals lick.

If I'm not mistaken, I believe it was Terry Bethel that covered a scale lick featuring this change in "Pedal Steel Guitar a Manual of Style."

Could I live without it? I suppose if I had to, but I'm so used to it now and I've built a lot of my playing style, runs, etc. using that raise, I'd kinda like to keep it. Wink
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Dave Meis


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Olympic Peninsula, Washington, USA
Post  Posted 22 Jul 2016 7:22 pm    
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7th string: F# to G is what I have. Gives a minor 3rd and a useful melody note.
Sorry..just saw your 'edit' for the 6th string..I only have the 'sus 4' there..
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Jack Stoner


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Kansas City, MO
Post  Posted 23 Jul 2016 2:30 am    
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I raise string 7 a half tone (F# to G).
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Tony Prior


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Charlotte NC
Post  Posted 23 Jul 2016 6:00 am    
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right now no pull, for years I raised 7 ..but as of late I have moved over to lowering 6. If I could get the 7 raise on another lever somewhere that works for me, maybe staggered, I would add it in a NY minute. I would put 7 raise BACK with 1 and 2 raise and put 6 lower all by it's lonesome self .
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Dick Sexton


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Greenville, Ohio
Post  Posted 23 Jul 2016 7:27 am     Raise 7
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I raise 7... 1/2 tone along with raising 1 & 2. Lowering 6... 1/2 tone, is on my bucket list. Still looking for "a round toit".
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Cloverdale, CA, USA
Post  Posted 23 Jul 2016 7:40 am    
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None. I use it as a bellwether to know if the guitar's tuning has drifted due to temperature changes. It's the only string with no pulls attached.

I used to raise the 7th string to G, but now I get that change on my 6th string lower to F#. It splits with the B pedal to make a G note. For a few years I had F# to G# on my 0 pedal. I think that lowering the 6th string is a better solution.
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Jim Robbins

 

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Ontario, Canada
Post  Posted 23 Jul 2016 9:16 am    
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I raise it to G# with a feel stop at G. I use it a lot. It is the equivalent of the A pedal in AB position when you are playing in no pedals position. I like the pull up to the unison with the 6th string G#. It is on the same knee as the 1st & 2nd string raises.

I have the 6th string lower on a Franklin pedal which I don't use as often. Maybe I'd use it more if I had them split but I don't feel the need with the 7th string raise.
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Jerry Overstreet


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Louisville Ky
Post  Posted 23 Jul 2016 9:21 am    
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F# raise a whole tone to G#. I like pretty licks and this gets a maj7 bending it in with A&B pedals down. I use it on the same lever that lowers 2 & 9. Just have to be selective with the string choices.

It's a bonus that the G works at the existing half stop position for string 2 lowers.
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Paddy Long


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Christchurch, New Zealand
Post  Posted 24 Jul 2016 3:38 pm    
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F# to G#
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Ron Pruter

 

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Arizona, USA
Post  Posted 24 Jul 2016 4:30 pm    
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I have the same as Jim Robbins and use it alot. I installed a Michael Yahl, ShoBud feel stop which is normally used on the 2nd string. It's at the L/K/R position. RP
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Johan Jansen


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Post  Posted 25 Jul 2016 2:26 pm    
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Feel stop, till stop: string 1 and 7: F# to G
through stop 1 and 7: F# to G# and string 2: D# to E
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Richard Sinkler


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Post  Posted 26 Jul 2016 10:13 am    
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Currently,both F# to G on my vertical. I'm thinking of dumping the 7th string G, although I do use it, and move that string to G# instead. I've tried a half stop on the vertical, and it just didn't work out for me. I also have a 2nd LKL lever (that is currently removed. But I could put the 7th raise to G# on. That way I could keep the G on 7.
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Joachim Kettner


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Germany
Post  Posted 26 Jul 2016 11:15 am    
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F-sharp to G. In combination with the 8th and 6th it makes a nice R&B riff like Al Perkins used on "Six Days On The Road".
Here he plays it on the seventh fret using strings 10, 9 and 8. It sounds the same played on fret two with 8, 7 raised, and 6.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMWCxt8ABNghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMWCxt8ABNg
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Ricky Davis


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Post  Posted 27 Jul 2016 4:57 pm    
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Ken Byng


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Southampton, England
Post  Posted 27 Jul 2016 5:23 pm    
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F# to G#. Gives a nice Maj7 with A&B down.
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Dale Rottacker


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Walla Walla Washington, USA
Post  Posted 28 Jul 2016 6:25 am    
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I have a double stop on my 7th raising it to G/G# on RKR, which also lowerā€™s the 9th along with the the D/C# double stop on the 2nd string

I also lower the 7th string on Staggered LKL down to E
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Earnest Bovine


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Post  Posted 28 Jul 2016 8:11 am    
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I have this on RKL on most of my guitars. I use the half step drop a lot.
Tab:
      RKL   
F#   
D#   -D,--C#       
G#   
E   
B   
G#   
F#   -F,--E       
E   
D    (D),-C#       
B   
G#   
E    (E),++F#     
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Howard Parker


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Maryland
Post  Posted 28 Jul 2016 8:13 am    
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The OP has disappeared..

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